KPD: B's aksing Leafs for two 1st rounders & 2nd rounder for Kessel
by Stanley Cup of Chowder on Sep 14, 2009 8:40 PM EDT
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Kevin Paul Dupont of the Boston Globe is reporting that the Bruins have offered Phil Kessel to the Toronto Maple Leafs fortwo first round picks and a second rounder. According to Dupont's sources, Toronto Maple Leafs GM Brian Burke also wants the Bruins to throw in a third round pick with Kessel.
Let's just hope that PC and Burkie can get their act together enough this time to figure out who gets the extra pick.
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I can guarantee you the several wire photos of Heatley were used more than that one of Kessel; although it seems possible that might change, now that Heatley-gate, Chapter Two is over.
by PeterR on Sep 14, 2009 10:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
…..sorry, I don’t speak Canadian…..(i.e. I don’t get a single thing you just said)
I don’t think TO would give up this much for Kessel….but then again I could be drastically underestimating how desperate the Leafs truly are.
by delta on Sep 15, 2009 8:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
At first, it was Kessel overestimating himself…now it’s the Bruins overestimating his value…this is just downright dumb now.
by 13_Legion on Sep 15, 2009 11:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Isn’t the likely compensation package for Kessel a first, a second, and a third? Why would TOR trade more to get him than they would have to give up if they tendered an RFA offer sheet?
A man must have a code.
by Fehr and Balanced on Sep 15, 2009 2:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, chiarelli has said time and time again that he’d match any offer sheet, and maybe burke doesn’t want to give up exactly that package. Maybe chiarelli wants a prospect instead of a pick?
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Sep 15, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well if the suggested package was a prospect I wouldn’t have been surprised and probably wouldn’t have been drawn to comment. What struck me was the sheer balls of the B’s asking for a package of picks that was greater than the highest likely compensation package that would be required from an RFA offer. At some point the B’s won’t have the cap space to match a Burke offer so Chiarelli won’t have much of a choice. He’d either have to shed salary by immediately moving rostered players so that he could match the sheet or he’d have to let Kessel walk.
A man must have a code.
by Fehr and Balanced on Sep 16, 2009 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
With a trade they get the player they want at the price they want without having to worry about the B’s matching the offer and getting left with nothing. It also allows them to decide which draft picks they give up.
by Stanley Cup of Chowder on Sep 15, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Teams can go over the cap by 10% until sometime towards the end of training camp. Once that date passes Burke can make an offer the B’s can’t match because they’d go over. Even if Burke wanted to choose which picks he gave up I don’t think he’d give up an extra first instead of a third for that option.
A man must have a code.
by Fehr and Balanced on Sep 16, 2009 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My understanding is that once the season starts, if the Leafs (or any other team) submits an offer sheet to a RFA (Kessel), the Bruins would have 1 week to match it …. of course during this 1 week period the Bruins would have to clear some salary from their roster (salary dump trades) if they want Kessel.
by Mr Spock on Sep 16, 2009 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly. But you also have to keep in mind that once Burke tenders that offer sheet the entire league knows that BOS has to move players or lose Kessel. That is the ultimate position of weakness. BOS is going to lose roster players for almost no value in order to keep Kessel if that happens. With all this hanging over them I don’t see how BOS has the leverage to hijack another first round pick from TOR, and I don’t see Burke being dumb enough to do that.
A man must have a code.
by Fehr and Balanced on Sep 16, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It depends on how badly Burke really wants Kessel. This could all be one of Burke’s mind games.
by Stanley Cup of Chowder on Sep 16, 2009 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m sure there is a degree of public posturing, but Burke has done a pretty good job of asset management. He talked about wanting Tavares but wasn’t going to overpay for him. I can’t really think of an example where Burke really overpaid for a guy via trade. Two 1sts and a 2nd is definitely overpaying for Kessel, and considering the built in compensation structure I just can’t see Burke paying that much.
A man must have a code.
by Fehr and Balanced on Sep 16, 2009 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everything you are saying seems very logical. However alot of the fans from Toronto are hoping that Burke submits an offer sheet for Kessel and are saying it would be a steal. Thus if Kessel is dealt by PC (Bruins GM), he would probably have to be dealt for a compensation above a Leaf offer sheet …. and as a side note, I am watching the Bruins and Leafs pre-season game, and the Leafs look like they need Kessel and more!
by Mr Spock on Sep 16, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Toronto can’t be that dumb to offer two #1s for Kessel. I mean they’re not the Oakland Raiders. If they go with the over sheet, Boston would have to match it. That would put the Bs in a big whole to fit him in under the salary cap. At that point, they would either have to find 4 Mil in cap space, by letting go players, or trade Kessel for whatever they can get. In other words, there is no pressure on the Bs now, but once an offer sheet is signed, Boston will have to react fast to get under the cap within a couple weeks. The pressure will not come, until the offer sheet is signed. Toronto, or any other team, can wait until just before the season starts and than sign the offer sheet. At that point, The Bs will need to scramble real fast to decide what to do.
by skippy123 on Sep 15, 2009 4:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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