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Are the Bruins on the verge of making a trade?

James Murphy of NESN.com reported last night via Twitter that the Bruins could be close to making a trade:

Was just told by source that a "trade is coming" for Bruins. That was all but one has to believe some kind of shakeup will happen.

- James Murphy via Tweeter (MurphysLaw74)

Toucher & Rich on 98.5 The Sports Hub also mentioned a "major trade" could be happening soon. They mentioned the possibility of a trade with the Edmonton Oilers, which leads me to believe that T&R may have gotten that rumor from everyone's favorite rumor monger that I will not mention by name or link to here. His post said that the Bruins could be making a deal with Edmonton that would give them a goal scorer and another piece that would set up a trade with Atlanta. I think the Bruins will make a move, but I would be shocked if it went down like this considering the source.

Whatever deal the Bruins are about to make, it is unlikely that it will involve Tuukka Rask or Toronto's first round pick. Also, don't expect to see Ilya Kovalchuk in black & gold.

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I “love” listening to the people that call in to the Sports Hub. They have no concept of a salary cap or the fact that on the off chance the B’s got Kovalchuk there’s a 0% chance he’d re-sign here.

“Give up Wideman, Ryder, and Wheeler for Kovalchuk and then sign him to something like 5 years 6 million a year”

That is an actual quote I heard from a caller on the Sports Hub.

by BuriesIt on Jan 25, 2010 11:15 AM EST reply actions  

Some of these calls are classic.

I love these “season ticket holders” calling in and saying the team needs to be blown up. Do people think they have more pull if they lie about being season ticket holders?

by 13_Legion on Jan 25, 2010 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Ha yes! Sometimes these people claim to be season ticket holders but talk like they haven’t been to a game all season.

I also love the calls to trade Wideman for an offensive stud (“trade for bobby ryan in a package centered around Wideman”). Yes, because the Ducks are obviously going to jump at that offer!

by BuriesIt on Jan 25, 2010 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

These Rask for Kovalchuk offers from callers are hilarious too. Where are they getting that money? Tuukka makes $1.5 million. Kovalchuk makes $7.5 million. The Bruins aren’t going to tear up their whole team and sell their future for this year.

by Stanley Cup of Chowder on Jan 25, 2010 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

I am all for sending Wideman, Wheeler and someone else down the road if it would get the Bruins Kovaluchuk.

by Eric B on Jan 26, 2010 12:00 AM EST up reply actions  

I liked 98.5 for the first month or two until I actually started listening to what people were saying. A bunch of morons who watched 5 Bruins games last year and think they should be the new GM because they witnessed the good times really don’t get my respect or even share a single opinion of any intelligent hockey analyst.

by Ryan Elliott on Jan 26, 2010 1:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Are they good enough

I know that the NHL is like most sports that you need to catch hot at the right time and make a run. with a trade and Savvy healthy is this team even good enough at that point to make a real run? Or do you keep the draft picks and continue working for the future?

We thought it was a problem with putting the puck in the net. I am wondering if there are too many holes in this team to fix with adding 1 or 2 guys.
Thoughts?

by RayFinkle on Jan 25, 2010 11:29 AM EST reply actions  

See, I agree

Bringing in Ilya is not going to be enough to turn this team around. Personally, I feel they just have too many holes. Right now, if Kovalchuk comes in, we’re losing games 5-4 instead of 5 to 1. No one else really seems to be scoring.

I don’t want Rask gone. But the Sports Hub did make the point. How can management say Rask is untouchable when they signed Thomas to that deal?

by 13_Legion on Jan 25, 2010 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Bad Deal

It was a reward deal more than anything. “Nice work the last couple years, here’s a contract so you can wither away with us until you retire.” They signed the deal before his 35th birthday for a reason, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see him bought out down the road. Not to say that his play lately has been that poor, but he’s being way too aggressive, taking too many chances, and not being careful enough to keep track of the puck after the initial save. Watching him in the crease is nerve-racking to say the least, whether or not he gets the win…

by Ryan Elliott on Jan 26, 2010 1:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, but the contract still counts as an over-35 contract because it went into effect before he turned 35. If they buy him out then we’ve got nearly 10% of our cap tied up in dead space for a couple years and that doesn’t help anyone.

Thomas is still in the top 20 for save percentage, it’s not like he’s a shit goalie.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jan 26, 2010 9:50 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree

I think Kovalchuk will turn the team around to some extent, but they’re not going to win the Cup with him. It’s not worth it to mortgage the future in order to get a mid-round playoff seed and a first or second round exit.

by bigdukesix on Jan 26, 2010 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

So the question is...

If Kovalchuk isn’t the main goal, what type of player do you bring in? Can you bring in 3 or 4 guys to try to make a difference, or is this a halfway move – see if 1 or 2 guys do help and if not, oh well, plan for next year and hope for Taylor Hall?

Irregardless, it’s at least positive to see that management does get the message and that some form of change, either to salvage this season or work towards next, is coming.

by Arenacale on Jan 25, 2010 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

And replace him with whom?

by Arenacale on Jan 25, 2010 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Mike Milbury!

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jan 25, 2010 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

At least you didn’t say Melrose.

by Arenacale on Jan 25, 2010 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Let’s get Don Cherry out of retirement.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jan 25, 2010 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly.

Sports Hub was just annoying me with their discussion of firing the coach.

by 13_Legion on Jan 25, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Listening too closely to the local media when your team has dropped a few is a good way to get a headache.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jan 25, 2010 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

julien is a great coach maybe system should change in his style especially defense there has been more oppitunitys to move the puck out of zone they keep getting hemmed in reading the play everytime i can keep a guy down low so the only thing i say is change the sytem i also think wideman hasnt played well missing pucks falling its time to make some moves on the blue line

by hockeyhero1724 on Jan 26, 2010 7:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Whoa.

Punctuation and complete sentences are pretty awesome, you should try it out.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jan 26, 2010 9:51 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t run-on like that. I also use punctuation ever.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jan 26, 2010 8:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Somebody mentioned trading Lucic

and I know he hasnt played well lately but jesus, Is there a bigger identity guy on the Bruins right now? A bigger fan favorite?

Trading him and not winning a cup would be like trading Nomar and not winning in 04 and even that doesn’t work because Nomar was on the back 9 of his career and Lucic has (insert my favorite blog title here) “tremendous upside potential”

by ike6116 on Jan 25, 2010 1:24 PM EST reply actions  

Oh, people would be beside themselves if Lucic got traded. If they win a Cup as a result it’s less of a deal, but for sure the fans have invested a great deal both emotionally and financially in him, and if they were to trade him it’d be a major blow to the team’s status locally. I’d be a PR nightmare, and with the Bruins current status as the “4th team” in Boston, it would be a real buzzkill.

by Arenacale on Jan 25, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Good thing he’s making more than Savard next year, then.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jan 25, 2010 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

He isn’t going anywhere. His contract shows that he means more to the Bruins than he does to any other team.

by Stanley Cup of Chowder on Jan 26, 2010 5:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Trade

They signed thomas to a long term deal because he played phenomenal last year and you can’t argue that, he also had a good defense and a team that was playing healthy and within the system. Tuukka is the future of the organization we’ve blown too many goalies young in they’re careers and nobody wants Boston to do it again. Look at the first two months of the season when people were questioning Thomas, we were losing games 1-0 or 2-0 that isn’t Timmy’s fault. Now he’s playing so aggressive to try and spark a fire in the team and it’s costing games, I’m guessing we will trade Ryder and a pick for someone I’ve no clue who..we also havent signed Chara back and who knows maybe we wont. I’d love to see him stay but he’s gotta step up otherwise Patrice better be wearing that C he’s deserved it this year!

by satyr4 69 on Jan 25, 2010 1:36 PM EST reply actions  

Although

 I do like Ryder he hasn’t lived up to much of his contract and neither has Sturm these 2 contracts could be the diference in the ability to get Ilya. Those 2 contracts alone are a cap hit the next 2 seasons of 7.5 Million. Maybe if we sent those 2 and 1 of the first round 1 picks ( preferrably ours) to atlanta they would go for it. Then we could take the another pick probably going to have to be a second round or higher and Wideman for a better scoring/ puck moving defensemen. All i have to say is im tired of watching us sit back and do nothing at trading deadlines i want something done this year cause something isnt working. And we better not give up our future in Rask.

by BruinsLover on Jan 25, 2010 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Give the C to Bergeron!

Bergeron has been my favorite Bruins player since he was 18, and he’s really coming into his own as the leader of the team on and off the ice. I’m sure part of Chara’s deal here was him getting the “C”, but if this team-wide slump continues for the rest of the year, I hope Bergeron gains captaincy by the end of the season. Wishful thinking, but you never know — look what it has done for players such as Marleau, Staal, and Koivu. Adding or removing that “C” might mean more than we think to the guys playing out there.

by Ryan Elliott on Jan 26, 2010 1:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Stripping the C off the captain mid-season is a pretty shitty thing to do, though.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jan 26, 2010 9:50 AM EST up reply actions  

That would have to be thought about long and hard. A move like that could motivate or complete tear apart an already (reportedly) split room.

by Stanley Cup of Chowder on Jan 26, 2010 5:45 PM EST up reply actions  

They can only get out of Ryder’s contract with a buyout, demotion or waiver pickup. If Edmonton is indeed selling there are some interesting options there.

You don't score on 100% of the shots you don't take!

by twofirstsandasecond on Jan 25, 2010 7:23 PM EST reply actions  

With giant contracts.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jan 25, 2010 8:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Ryder had been a disapointment this season so far.

by Eric B on Jan 26, 2010 12:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Team

Non-season ticket holder here :p

What happened to this team?

Did they play way over their heads last season or are they just playing that badly this season?

The intense forechecking seems to be missing.

They could use an offensive spark plug and a defensive stopper.

Were Kessel and Ward that important to this team? Or did Lucic, Krejci and Wheeler play above their actual talent?

by wdogg72 on Jan 27, 2010 8:24 AM EST reply actions  

Ward is now playing for Carolina and they put him on waivers, so I don’t think he was the key. They did massively over-perform last season, and are definitely coming back to earth now. The question is if they bounce back or not. That we’re missing some key players (Savard, Lucic, Savard, Sturm, etc) due to injury is a big problem too. However, the eastern conference is a big jumble, and 2 more points would have the Bruins in 6th right now.

Lucic had one of the highest shooting percentages in the league last year. He’s been hurt a lot this year, and on top of all that the people covering him don’t have to worry about Kessel and Savard most of the time.
 
 
 
p.s. Obviously that Axelsson is missing is the problem.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jan 27, 2010 9:37 AM EST up reply actions  

They’ve also got a game or 2 (or 3) in hand on just about every team around them save the Flyers. So it’s not over yet.

But yes, no Axelsson is the issue.

by Arenacale on Jan 27, 2010 9:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh, I know. And this week off is bumping that number up. On the other hand, we haven’t been able to pick up points as much as we should. They had a bad stretch.

This weekend I assume there will either be a jubilant or furious riot after the kings game.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jan 27, 2010 10:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Axelsson...uuhh I mean Kessel

When he was out of the line up last season…especially the playoffs….it seemed we were a bit goal starved.

Don’t get me wrong….I am not jumpin on the Thrill bandwagon.

Bruins are lacking that guy who is gonna score when everyone else can’t seem to find the back of the net. And once that guy scores it sparks the team, the Ryders, Lucics, Wheelers etc. That being said….who do we give up and how do we pay the new guy.

And about that intense deep forechecking (that leads to easy goals)…..does it have anything to do with a little less backbone on defense?? Or is it just the lack of PJ??

by wdogg72 on Jan 27, 2010 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

forechecking is mostly done by forewards against defensemen, so I think PJ missing has more to do with it than unfortunate play by defensemen. Begin, Thornton, Bitz make a good forechecking line, but they’ve been out recently.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jan 27, 2010 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

I honestly don’t think PJ would make any difference. His best years are behind him. He is not the player he was 5 or 10 years ago.

by Stanley Cup of Chowder on Jan 27, 2010 6:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Did they play way over their heads last season or are they just playing that badly this season?

I think they overachieved to a certain extant last year, but they are better than they have been playing. They have been hit hard with injuries, but every team deals with that. At some point you can’t keep using that as an excuse.

by Stanley Cup of Chowder on Jan 27, 2010 6:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Wednesday now…so much for that “imminent trade”. I’m more and more of the mindset that the B’s should just stay put – if the team improves soley by Savard’s return great, if not and they sink to the bottom of the conference, hell, there’s TWO shots at Taylor Hall!

by Arenacale on Jan 27, 2010 1:59 PM EST reply actions  

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