Are the Bruins looking to make a deal?
There have been rumors that the Peter Chiarelli and the Boston Bruins are shopping a few players in order to dump salary and get under the cap when Marc Savard and Marco Sturm return from long-term injured reserve. Some of the names that are being kicked around include Michael Ryder, Blake Wheeler, and Matt Hunwick.
According to Joe Haggerty of Comcast Sports Net New England, Peter Chiarelli was spotted along with three members of the Bruins scouting department at Bell Centre in Montreal on Monday night for the Habs' game against the Phoenix Coyotes. According to one of Haggerty's sources, Chiarelli is interested in Phoenix defenseman Keith Yandle. Chiarelli also plans on being in attendance for tonight's game between the Senators and Coyotes in Ottawa. Mikkel Boedker and Viktor Tikhonov were also thrown out as potentially targets for the B's.
TSN talking head Bob McKenzie has once again wedged himself into an NHL story and is shooting down the Keith Yandle to Boston trade rumors. I would be surprised if the Bruins made a deal for Yandle that only included the players mentioned above, but Haggerty did point out that the 1st pick from Toronto and Tim Thomas could be in play.
My only question is: Why now?
There is no timeline for Savard or Sturm's return to game action. Yes, Both players skated today, but are admittedly far from ready to participate in practice much less an NHL game. Few teams are at the make or break point in their season. If the Bruins wait and be patient, they may be able to get a better return.
So, which player(s) would give the Bruins the greatest return? Do the Bruins really have any trade-able assets?
Michael Ryder will be a tough sell with a $4 million cap hit. I'm don't know how many teams will be willing to take on that kind of a cap hit. Some have floated the idea of sending Ryder to the AHL to save cap space, but I don't think that move is in the best interest of the team or the player. I have said for a while that I think Ryder will have a good season. The veteran winger is off to a decent start with 4 points (2-2-4) in 6 games and seems to found his sniper-like shot again. Inconsistent effort and performance has also been the knock on Ryder, but money is the great motivator and Ryder is in a contract year. I never really bought the inconsistent effort claims with Ryder, but I think you will see a much more consistent performance out of #73 this season...if he doesn't end up in the desert or The Ocean State.
Blake Wheeler could be the Bruins' best trading chip. Wheeler went through a sophomore slump last season after a stellar rookie year and many fans have not been happy with the way Wheeler's game has progressed (or regressed, depending on who you ask), but there is no denying that Wheeler has tremendous potential. If Wheeler could learn to use his big frame, he could be an impact player in this league. The Bruins do not want to look back on Blake Wheeler as another guy the organization gave up on too early, but could be moved for the right player(s).
Matt Hunwick showed signs that he had the potential to be a solid offensive, puck-moving defenseman in his rookie season, but much like Wheeler, seemed to have taken a step back in year 2. The problem with moving Hunwick is that the Bruins' current depth on the blue line is pretty thin, especially with Johnny Boychuk on the shelf for at least a month. The motivation behind a trade right now would be to dump salary. Hunwick's cap hit is $1.55 million. It is hard to believe that a salary dump move involving Hunwick would yield a return that would help the team financially on in the short-run on the ice.
Tim Thomas' name has been bounced around in trade rumors all off-season and the murmurs have continued into the fall. While moving Thomas would give the Bruins the cap relief they are looking for, I still question whether or not teams are willing to take to on the risk of his contract. Thomas looks rejuvenated after off-season hip surgery and has played out of his mind so far this season, which could boost his trade value. However, his strong play coupled with a few rough outings by Tuukka Rask also increases his perceived value to the Bruins. Chiarelli may have handcuffed the organization with the extension of Tim Thomas' contract, but having a Vezina-winning goalie hanging around has proven to be not such a bad thing.
Chiarelli has been extremely patient and cautious in trade negotiations in the past (almost to a fault). I think this is a situation where the Bruins would be best served by patience. Put out a few feelers, see when Savard and Sturm are coming back, sit back, and wait for the big picture to develop.
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I don't think any trades are imminent...
“Imminent” meaning, “In the next few weeks,” but something is definitely coming beyond that. Pierre LeBrun started this whole thing on HNIC last week, he mentioned during the Hotstove that Chiarelli was starting to lay the groundwork for such a trade. That’s good GMing. The situation is no longer many months off, it’s now a matter of perhaps only 5 or 6 weeks. See what’s out there now, who’s willing to do business, and start weighing the options, because Sturm and Savard (well, Sturm at least) will be ready sooner than it seems.
All that said, I’m a bit surprised so few have brought up the idea of trading Sturm. Yes, he’s been a top 6 player on this team, and he’s definitely a big character guy, but if all the lines are clicking, and especially if Blake Wheeler starts getting it together at a lower price, I don’t think moving Marco would be the end of the world.
…aaaand I just saw your reply on Sturminator in the other thread, SCoC. That would be the reason no one’s talking about trading him.
Thanks, that save me some effort here. Haha
by Stanley Cup of Chowder on Oct 26, 2010 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions
If the Yotes offered, say, Ryder and Wheeler for Yandle, I’d be on that like white on rice. Hell, I’d throw in a draft pick without much hesitation. Yandle is a guy I would love to get.
Free Brad Marchand!
$6.25 million going one way and $1.2 million coming back…somehow I don’t see that happening.
by Stanley Cup of Chowder on Oct 26, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Isn’t the whole point of Boston making a trade to shed some salary? Phoenix could take on a good amount of salary without problem. Therefore, if PC is talking to them, one has to assume that a salary dump is part of a deal. And that almost certainly means Ryder.
Wheeler strikes me as an eye-of-the-beholder guy. We’ve (we meaning Bruins fans, not the “we” that overzealous fans apply to imply “me and the team I love”) soured on the guy, but he’s big, young, has skill, stays healthy, and has had some success. It’s not hard to imagine that another team might be very interested in him.
Maybe Ryder + Wheeler for Yandle is a bit low, I admit. With both guys becoming free agents, the Coyotes might want a young player they can control for awhile. I’d also send them Hamill and even a second round pick if need be. Hamill urgently needs a change of scenery, he’s just completely buried here.
Free Brad Marchand!
Good point on Hamill
I don’t think any tears would be shed for him if he got sent elsewhere. Maybe with another franchise with a lot less young talent he’d already be in the NHL, but there’s just too much of a logjam here. As mediocre a team as Phoenix is, it represents good a opportunity for young players.
I too would do a backflip if all the Bruins had to give up is Ryder and Wheeler. It leaves a potential hole in scoring but, still its just a potential hole. I’ve very much soured on wheeler and he has frustrated me with his continued moments of brillance and then showing his inability to stay verticle while skating. Ryder might be a bigger hole as i’m also expecting the contract year to turn into bigger things from him.
The best part is the cap relief and then getting Savvy and Sturm back. I still like the team minus Wheels and Ryder while adding less than perfect Savvy and Sturm. I would call this trade, if it happens, A big win for PC!
by SkateHitShoot on Oct 27, 2010 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Yandle is going to be a free agent too. Trading any combination of Hunwick, Ryder and Wheeler would be a great deal for the Bruins and a no brainer because of the cap. The Coyotes have plenty of cap space to take Ryder and one of the other two on, but I see no reason being they are all free agents next year on why the Coyotes would be interested.
I would love to see them land Yandle any way possible. His salary this year is cheaper even then Hunwicks.
Yandle is going to be a free agent
The Coyotes are in trouble if that’s true. I doubt he doesn’t re-sign after they get the Chicago-based owner and he loosens the purse-strings.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Oct 28, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
The revenue from 5,000 fans a night sure isn’t going to get him that pay day. The NHL needs to take this team off life support and get them to a real market. They are good team. It’s a shame they are stuck in Glendale.
by Stanley Cup of Chowder on Oct 28, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Coyotes are averaging over 10,000 a night right now, even with the one night with 6000 people there.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Oct 29, 2010 2:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Am I supposed to be impressed by this??? Bad Market. Bad Ownership. Bad for Hockey. Move them.
by Stanley Cup of Chowder on Oct 29, 2010 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I think a lot of teams would love to get American Hero Keith Yandle, because he’s a very good and pretty cheap player (for now). I think Phoenix would only accept a king’s ransom back for him.
Also, consider that the deal with the new owner isn’t final and therefore the Coyotes are still handcuffed by an internal budget that’s lower than the cap.
Basically what I’m saying is don’t pick up your Bruins Yandle jersey just yet.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Oct 26, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Also: Totally worth the trade for the hilarity of the Blake Wheeler homecoming to Phoenix.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Oct 26, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I totally forgot about that. Good call. I can’t see Wheeler going back to place he refused to play and being accepted by the fans there.
by Stanley Cup of Chowder on Oct 26, 2010 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I bet they take him back if he Stempniaks it up and just totally elevates his game.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Oct 26, 2010 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Safe assumption. From Five for Howling:
If they signed Wheeler, in exchange for anyone, I might start projectile vomiting.
by CheckingCzechs on Oct 26, 2010 1:02 PM PDT
Nice...
That was my wife’s comment on the Wheeler rumors, she will enjoy your reactions.
Speaking from the Coyotes perspective (and as confirmed by GMDM on NHL Live today), Yandle is not getting moved anywhere anytime soon unless the return is massive. He’s a 24 year old defenseman that will be an RFA next year and in his first full season had a stat line that read 12/29/41/+16. In addition, he was just given an ‘A’ during the preseason.
I know that the Coyotes love Oliver Ekman-Larsson, but why would you ever trade a guy like Yandle?
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by Jordan Ellel on Oct 27, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I can see it now, PC Neeley and a bunch of office staff in a conference room all giggling while PC dials the speakerphone…
Shhh, Shhh Shhh, Hi Blake its Peter….(pause)…we’ve….(pause)….traded you….(pause)…to….(snorting noise)…..the Phoenix….(voice goes up an octave)…Coyotes!…….(long pause and deep breath heard)…They are very excited…..(pause)….to be getting…….you!….(pant),,,and we all…..(pant)…wish you the best…..! Goodbye! He hangs up and the room erupts in laughter! PC calls Neely a douche for almost making him laugh and they all exit the room laughing and back slapping each other
by SkateHitShoot on Oct 27, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Would love Yandle
And I;d say for Wheeler and a first rounder is reasonable, but after Wheeler snubbed them does Phoenix want him?
No way they will take Ryder.
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by bestbostonsports on Oct 27, 2010 12:20 AM EDT reply actions
I think they would take Ryder before Wheeler because of their tumultuous history.
by delta on Oct 27, 2010 11:14 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
TSN talking head Bob McKenzie has once again wedged himself into an NHL story
I should have mentioned this earlier but this line is laughable. Bob McKenzie covers the whole NHL, why wouldn’t he comment on this?
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Oct 27, 2010 10:28 AM EDT reply actions
I assume he means it’s because no one reported anything to McKenzie, and he took it upon himself to comment on a trade rumor that neither he nor anyone on his network broke, and because McKenzie has anointed himself the lord of trade rumor credibility.
Free Brad Marchand!
McKenzie has anointed himself the lord of trade rumor credibility.
Can’t blame the guy for accepting that crown. TSN:NHL::ESPN:NFL and he’s one of the main dudes.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Oct 27, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think Wheeler will ever elevate his game to the next level. I understand he’s young, has a good physique and whatnot, I just don’t see it. His shot leaves something to be desired, he plays the puck like a rookie, he just doesn’t show those flashes of brilliance that most strong prospects do.
I mean, I’ve seen more flashes of brilliance from Ryder, Seguin and others. I’m just not a big fan.
Nobody will take Sturm, but I think the B’s are better off keeping him. Knee surgeries have progressed leaps and bounds since even a few years ago. I think Marco having two knee replacements is much better than having one (I’m assuming Marco got both knees replaced…not the same one twice. That would be horrible). I’m so confident in todays knee surgeries that I think if Neely got his injuries today he wouldve had a longer career than he did.
by delta on Oct 27, 2010 11:34 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
More importantly, so would Orr.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Oct 27, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
He did not have knee replacements. I doubt he would be playing if he had knee replacement surgery.
by Stanley Cup of Chowder on Oct 27, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
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I am missing the B’s so much.

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