Claude Julien has gotta go
After last night's piss-poor display, is this the reaction you want from your head coach?:
"Well I think the one thing that really didn’t help us tonight is the fact that we had about four or five players really battling the flu."
If these guys were as sick as he claims, why not dress Brad Marchand, Jeff Penner, or Trent Whitfield. At least these guys might have played with some hunger and passion, since they have something to prove.
I'm tried of this guy making excuses and spitting out the same old clichés night after night. Julien lost this team a long time ago. When all the players were saying a few months ago when they were in their slump "this isn't the coach's fault. This is on us.", I wanted to believe them. Now, it is obvious that Claude is a big part of the problem.
One of the biggest problems I have had with Julien this year is that he doesn't hold his players accountable. Look at Dennis Wideman. He is second only to Zdeno Chara in ice time with 23:41 a night. You can not motivate players when you are rewarding them for playing poorly.
Claude Julien had a team that opponents feared playing against last year because they knew they were in for a tough game against the B's. That team toughness has been non-existent this year. They don't skate hard, they don't hit hard, and they don't create offense by going the the danger areas on the ice.
Maybe this is just the coaching product life-cycle of Claude Julien and it looks like we are into the decline phase. Take a look at his past. He has never kept a job with a team for longer than three years. Even more telling is the fact that the Devils fired him while they were in first place and three games away from the start of the playoffs. Coaches in first place don't get fired right before the playoffs unless there is a major concern about his ability to motivate his team.
Of course, it would be a bit hypocritical for Peter Chiarelli to fire Julien, because he is equally at fault. Chiarelli didn't give Julien the right group of players to work with. He never replaced the goals that left town with Phil Kessel, crippled the team's ability to make moves with high-priced long-term contracts and did next to nothing to improve this team at the deadline.
The Bruins need to make some big changes to motivate this team and win back the fans in this town. A shake up is needed and it is needed now. Claude has to go.
Fun Fact: Pat Burns (4 years) is the only Bruins head coach to last more than 3 seasons behind the bench in last 25 years.
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this is one of the problems with the nhl, a constant revolving door of coaches. you cant fire someone one year removed from a really good year like last. that adds absolutely zero stability to a team or an organization…while its nice to hope for a stanley cup or the chances at one every year, thats simply not possible.
we all know this isnt the year, and given all the injury woes all year, not having ANY goals, its clear they are playing for next year. give it one more year at least before you start calling for juliens head. after last year, he deserves a bit of a shot. and i dont see any big time coaches clamoring to come to boston to replace him anyways.
SCoC is right!
No Heart, No Drive, No Passion, No Motivation = No Goals, Not Winning, No LEADERSHIP!!!
Gotta start somewhere CJ is the most obvious choice. Replace him with anyone from now through the end of the season be it regular or if were lucky enough to make the playoffs as soon as we’re done. If ZC isn’t going to step up rip the captiancy away as well.
PC i’m giving you one more chance DO SOMETHING AND DO IT NOW! otherwise those two first round picks will get poisoned as well.
The room is dead they don’t WANT to play give them something to play for for pete sake. Breath some life back into these guys get them focused their attitude reflects their leadership.
Need to aim higher
Chiarelli has continually crippled this team with bad over-pays. He’s also the brainiac to hired Dave Lewis, then neglected to fire him 25 games into that first season when it was obvious to the entire world Lewis is a horrible head coach.
He overpaid for an aging goalie when he already had a franchise goalie ready to do.
He overpaid for soft players up the middle.
He failed to replace Kessel’s production during the season. I don’t count Satan b/c he’s a joke.
When the team needed to add some body presence on D, he instead signed an over-rated softie like Morris.
The list goes on.
Chiarelli needs to take the gas.
by garth the hoser on Mar 19, 2010 8:14 PM EDT reply actions
Ask Montreal how rushing a goalie’s progress works.
Which one is the soft center? Savard, Krejci, Bergeron, or Begin?
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Mar 19, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Or, for that matter, Steve Mason. The Bruins want Tuukka to be a good goalie for a long time, not for a year or two.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Mar 19, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Begin
Take a look at how this has progressed over the last few seasons: We had Metropolit, let him go and downgraded to Yelle, and downgraded to Begin. I don’t think Begin is bad for a 4th line center; however, we’ve been able to do much better in the past – be it through chemistry or actual skill. Every year Chia replaces the 4th line center, and every year he downgrades us with the new selection.
So this is the breaking point? Of all the games, one where they lose to one of the top teams in the admittedly awful east is the straw that breaks the camel’s back?
I mean, yeah. It’s a shame matt cooke isn’t drinking the rest of his meals through a straw or whatever. It’s a bummer that the Bruins can’t score, especially against the defending cup champs rebounding from a horrific loss the night before. It’s all a bummer.
I’m not ready to give up on this team yet. I expect a loss for every game and I am sometimes pleasantly surprised. Here’s to getting pleasantly surprised all through the playoffs. But this and the other post do sound a bit like THE 2010 STANLEY CUP CHAMPION BRUINS MARCH TO THE PLAYOFFS WAS SLOWED AGAIN TODAY BY THE PENGUINS.avi
What does firing the coach accomplish? What does ripping the C off Zdeno’s chest with what, 12 games plus maybe playoffs, accomplish?
Why is this something you want, except to say “Fuck you, Bruins, fuck you?” There are plenty of habs fans that agree with you on that point, I bet you could find some cop cars to burn together.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Mar 19, 2010 8:16 PM EDT reply actions
I actually can look at things objectively, while you are a cheerleader. Coaching changes can be a great catalyst. That’s what it can accomplish. It could also send a message to the fans and the team.
by Stanley Cup of Chowder on Mar 19, 2010 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I hold no illusions about the Bruins being a good team. I also don’t automatically hate them just because they are bad. It doesn’t mean I don’t want to go to games and see them win. Maybe you think changing the coach and captain etc right now would make them play better but that still means making the playoffs.
So which is it? Save the season (sorta, even with scotty bowman I don’t think this team is making much playoff noise) or keep things as-is and tank for the 10th pick or whatever it would end up being?
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Mar 19, 2010 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
come on these guys didn't loose thier skills
they lost their drive! they need a change they need a kick in the ass the can playthey choose not to they need a new route and someone to drive them there.
Christ look at last years Penguins!
last year’s penguins that got back Sergei Gonchar and Sidney Crosby right around the time they magically got better and made a run for the cup?
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Mar 19, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah those Penguins
who’s D went from sitting on the blue line to pinching in on the play, along with other changes like sitting a few regulars in the pressbox until they understood what was expected, right after Dan “Copperfield” Balsma took the reigns.
they got called out for being soft by the coach that was fired mid-season (not end-of-season) and they have two of the best players in the game on their team. We’re missing our best offensive player in Savard for the rest of the year. We don’t have a Malkin or a Crosby. Tuukka’s good but he’s even less likely to score than the Bruins players. I see some similarities but not as many as would make the difference.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Mar 19, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions
We can. Just don’t expect a penguins-esque turnaround.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Mar 19, 2010 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Was moved in with 25 games to go
Went 18-3-4…… if a change got the Bruins to go 8-4 and in the playoffs most fans i suspect would be right back behind this team again. It might bring the drive back as well… who knows a pissed off and renewed 7 or 8 seed might just be fun to watch!
I always defended Julien..
Until now. Its clear this team does not respect their coach. A great coach never gives his team an excuse to lose, because they’ll take it. Claude always has an excuse.
Interesting subject...
I gotta say I am a bit suprised to even see this subject come up, but apparently some people are still steaming over last night. I dont care either way. Hockey coaches come and go like fashion trends. There are about 3 great coaches, the rest are guys that sit behind a bench. If we make a change, we need to go young. Like Marc Crawford would be a good fit I think. I still think it is the players to blame. They are the ones that can’t score, they are the ones that play like shit. I hate to say it, but as far as THIS season goes the Kessell trade was a huge mistake. For the future probalbly a good move, but there went 30 goals and 30 assists we could really use about now. I think this team would be much different with a big-time playmaker.
If I want your opinion, I'll give it to you.
by Parental Advisory on Mar 19, 2010 11:15 PM EDT reply actions
I would like nothing more than to have an explanation as to why Wideman gets the minutes he does. Really, when you watch that guy play and then see he logs the second most minutes per game, you’d have to be an idiot to not think that was a big fucking problem.
I cant argue with that. Wideman is a turnover machine. He has got to be a -16 or so.
If I want your opinion, I'll give it to you.
by Parental Advisory on Mar 20, 2010 2:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Wideman and hunwick have the lowest +/- on the team.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Mar 20, 2010 2:59 AM EDT up reply actions
why always the coach?
maybe Claude isn’t reaching his players. maybe they need some motivation. why blame the coach all the time? he has a good system (seems to me), but the players most of the time are NOT skating. they are NOT hitting. what happened to change these guys from last year? wideman a big plus player last year now a minus. lucic a tough player skating and hitting not so much this year. guys that scored last year not doing it this year. blame the coach?
All I can see is the Bruins are being out skated, out worked, and out scored. They don’t win one on one battles and i have watched them get out skated to too many pucks. Are they that slow? Is the coach to blame for this? Do we blame him for Thomas’ problems?
The Bruins need to step up. The players need to step up. They make a lot of money for playing a game I would pay to be able to play. Injuries and illness have played a part, but the healthy players need to realize that it is their turn to show what kind of heart they have. The players need to step up for each other. Cooke should have been pounded when he hit Savard. Yes, they need to win a game, but they need to show each other they will step up and show some heart for each other first. The league showed squat. The refs showed squat. The players have to show up.
It is time for the league to take a step back in time and let the players do some of their own policing. It might slow down some of these cheap head (or knee) shots. Enforcers do help keep the “peace”. Not too many hit Wayne while Marty was around.
You fire the coach because you can’t fire the team…until the offseason. 
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Mar 20, 2010 3:00 AM EDT up reply actions
If Julien isn’t going to hold his players accountable than he needs to be the one who is accountable.
by Stanley Cup of Chowder on Mar 20, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
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The future looks good, this year a lot of players having down years for whatever reason.Can’t always blame the coach . He suddenly didn’t get stupid over the summer.With trades and injuries you’ve lost about eighty goals from last year and Chara and Wideman are nowhere near where they were last year but that could change in a heartbeat. Be positive. The chorus of boos and bronx cheers the other night sure doesn’t help the situation no matter what anyone says. The fans are fickle. Go “B’S GO”.
I haven’t been the most dedicated commentator on this blog this year, but on this one I really do want to take a minute to comment. SCOC, you’re right on the ball.
I think a few changes need to be made. First and foremost, I think that Chara needs to lose the captaincy. He shows no leadership qualities whatsoever. When the bruins were in the huge slump any other captain in the NHL would have called a captain’s meeting and publicly gone out and said “You know what? We suck. And we’re going to stay late at practice or have meeting and duke it out until we don’t” ANY OTHER CAPTAIN. Chara just collected his paycheck and went home. I don’t ever see him talking to players trying to motivate them (like you would often see Aaron Ward do during TV timeouts). I just don’t think he cares….anymore. I used to think differently of him.
If we’re going to pick a new captain (and its high time we did) I nominate Bergeron. Even when the rest of his team sucks, he goes out there and tries his heart out. I think we could turn the team around if we change that A to a C. Can’t save the season, now, its too late for that, but its not too late to try to inject some energy so we go into the offseason on a more positive note and try to motivate players to return next year.
I think Julien’s getting ridiculous. Earlier this year he said “This is a team of professional players. I’m not a cheerleader, it is their job to motivate themselves”. Thats not a direct quote, but a pretty accurate paraphase of what he said during the Slump of Doom. This is the mark of someone who has completely given up. Do you think the Miracle team won the 1980 gold because Herb Brooks sat there and said “Whatever man, if you suck it’s your fault” ? Good grief. This team has a lot – A LOT – of young kids and you know what? They DO need someone to help motivate them.
And Chara and Julien aren’t helping.
I never thought I’d say this, but I think losing Aaron Ward was the downfall of this team. We just don’t have that driven locker room presence (on any front) anymore.
Andie
you should come round more often. It’s been discussed and I agree, losing Kobasew, Ward and Sheriff Shane all cost the B’s in the grit department.
Should CJ go? If so, you should argue that PC should too. It’s PC’s team, CJ just coaches. If they cannot self-motivate, then that’s PCs fault for not putting in place the players that you needed. CJ cannot be expected to motivate multi-millionaire adults (maybe just the kids). It’s the very rare major league sports coach that can (Parcels, Bellichick, Pat Burns, and that guy who used to coach the Pirates and Marlins and now coaches the Tigers)
Which B's team is this?
okay i wrote a huge reply to this and sbnation ate it, haha, oh well. PC started great, and its been downhill ever since. So you could make an argument for him going, but I want to see his offseason dance before I pass a final judgement on him. Tough for me to justify canning a GM in the middle of the season – you can’t always tell what you’re getting in the offseason until the boots get laced in October (ex. Morris). Julien seems to have given up on this team though, and its just not acceptable.
If PC really wants to rock our world, I say go for an offensive-minded coach in Boston for next year. We haven’t seen one for a while, and if you shift some dead weight and get a decent scorer and get Savard nice and healthy…..it could be interesting.
I really don’t think Z will lose the C. He is the only other guy that showed any balls Thursday night with the exception of Thorton and maybe Lucic. Bergeron didn’t even show up for that game. You can’t not like Bergeron, or Recchi, or Stuart. They play with a ton of heart and passion, it’s just a matter of getting the rest of the team going with them and I think that is a very tall order at the moment. You could give Bergeron the C, I don’t think it would make any difference. I think the team has already written off this season. They are looking at next year and hopefully some good draft picks. I just hope they can move some dead weight in the off season. I’d love to see Ryder and Wheeler go to get someone on Savard’s wing that is at his level. Who that is I don’t know and I don’t know what the B’s would have to give up to get that player but if they can take some GM out and git him shitfaced and manage to throw Wideman in with the deal, I’d tap dance naked at center ice.
I thought Bergeron was one of the few guys that showed something on Thursday night. Watch his last shift. He was still going hard while everyone else was coasting.
by Stanley Cup of Chowder on Mar 20, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Chara doesn’t have the same punch that he had last season – his game’s been great, but it hasn’t been Chara-great. For Chara, its been mediocre. You combine that with the fact that I haven’t seen him step up once in terms of being a leader off the ice, and I don’t think he deserves a C anymore. And maybe changing the captain won’t make a difference – but what if it does?
Three strikes and you're out
Gainey canned him. Lou canned him….
He’s an improvement on Lewis, but that’s not saying much.

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