Leafs fan with question
by samspade on Mar 4, 2010 10:06 PM EST
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If you guys could give me a serious explanation of this id appreciate it. Why do Bruins fans hate Kessel so much? He didnt go to Montreal, he played well (as far as I know) while he was in Boston, and he was traded for a kings ransom (im mean its probably gonna be 2nd overall this year).
Was he unpopular while he was a Bruin? do leaf fans underestimate that locker-room-cancer stuff? It just seems that they REALLY hate him ( i heard that people even booed him when he was selected for team USA)
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heres ur answer
bruins hate canada, any1 playing for a bruins team and then goes to play for a canadian team is a traitor, every1 knows that
by BostonNation on Mar 4, 2010 10:12 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Not that is 100% false. This is a poor representation of “BostonNation”. The real reason we hate Phil Kessel is because he isn’t the type of player we love here in Boston. He is soft. He is one-dimensional and he disappears in big games. He also lied and manipulated the Bruins into trading him within the division. I never liked him when he was here and I certainly don’t like him now.
by Stanley Cup of Chowder on Mar 4, 2010 10:34 PM EST up reply actions
poor representation?
it’s the truth, ask any boston fan, theyll tell you kessel is a traitor, we finally get a 40 goal scorer. it took kessel few years to come around and he leaves for a canadian team, dont forget where kessel played in the olympics. sorry no disrespect but thats my opinion. if you look at all the top teams like pittsburgh and capitals, and devils, they have 2-3 players that can score consistently, bruins have no1 since kessel left. we havent had a top goal scorer since the neely, oates, and bourque days, its sad, sorry im upset its ridiculous we are top 6 team. after being in 1st place last year we are dangling for a playoff spot.
by BostonNation on Mar 5, 2010 9:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I really hope its a poor representation
Because its stupid as hell otherwise. Half the league is still canadian. Marc Savard, Milan Lucic, Milt Schmidt, Johnny Bucyk, Dit Clapper, Phil Esposito, Ray Borque, Eddie Shore and BOBBY ORR ARE ALL CANADIAN. If the majority of boston fans are so stupid that they think Kessel is a traitor for going to Canada then they should stick to the NFL and NASCAR.
Canadians were upset that Gretz got sold to the Kings, but he got an ovation when he went back to Canada the first time. If Kessel was a New Englander I could accept it, but he’s not. If your just upset he left Boston for a division foe thats cool too. But to call him a traitor for going to Canada?
I’ve been a leafs fan all my life, but my Grandfather and Father who had emigrated to Canada were Bruins fans, so please tell me thats not a real representation of todays bruins fans because I’ll lose my respect for the franchise. Thats like spitting in the face of 80 years of history.
yup
they are canadians that stuck with the bruins, lol, wow, im not hating on canadians just bringing the true facts, bucyk and whoever else u stated, kessel is a spoiled american that wants to play for a ****** team like the leafs?? good for him and good for canada
I think most players in the league would love to play in a Canadian city. I’m sure playing in front of passionate, knowledgeable fans every night must really suck. I don’t know why you made it into USA vs. Canada. Save that crap for wrestling.
by Stanley Cup of Chowder on Mar 6, 2010 8:11 AM EST up reply actions
Earlier this year, when Toronto had 2 americans in their starting lineup and the Bruins had zero, fans still chanted USA USA USA to start the game.
It’s all about singing the anthem louder.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Mar 6, 2010 3:06 PM EST up reply actions
good for you
ur not a bruins fan, this is a bruins blog, doesent toronto or montreal have their blog? go over there, no cares about last place toronto
I spend a lot of time on the Toronto site because there are a lot of intelligent hockey fans over there and they do some excellent analysis from time to time. Also, they’ve got good jokes. That and they can spell and know where the shift key is on the keyboard.
I am, however, a Bruins fan through and through.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Mar 7, 2010 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
Trust me. This is not how the majority of Bruins fans feel.
by Stanley Cup of Chowder on Mar 6, 2010 8:05 AM EST up reply actions
ohhh ok
they boooo kessel everytime he touches the puck. and what about montreal canadiens they booooood the usa national anthem when they played the bruins last year in the playoffs. you think bruins fans like canada?? yaaa ok, i dont know what ur talking about
I think what he’s trying to say is that not all Bruins fans are mouth-breathers. You’re proving the point that there are some, but you don’t have to be one to be the other.
For example, I like Canada quite a bit.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Mar 7, 2010 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
gretzky
canadians were upset cuz gretzky left of course he ploayed in canada for like 12 years, kessel played in boston 4yrs, showed up for only 2 yrs. comparing kessel leaving boston to gretzky leaving canada is moronic
you have no idea what the hell you are talking about
Who wants to go to the Olive Garden?
by JaredFromLondon on Mar 7, 2010 6:06 PM EST up reply actions
go bruins go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
savard out for year
by BostonNation on Mar 9, 2010 10:12 AM EST up reply actions
Damn You
I came over to post the same thing.
To further the question, here’s what Chemmy wrote in the re-cap:
Phil Kessel had the game on his stick with time expiring in OT but was stoned by Thomas. Thomas robbed Kessel at least four times tonight much to the enjoyment of Boston fans who boo players they run out of town that return them good assets. I don’t get it either.
We require, as a team, proper levels of pugnacity, testosterone, truculence and belligerence.
DION F*****G PHANEUF
by Belligerent Burkie on Mar 4, 2010 11:54 PM EST up reply actions
kessel
like i said only good in boston, he shoulda a stayed in boston, but hes young and dumb, and look at him now, im sure he wont have a 30 goal year in toronto ever, plus stinks on defense, so good for toronto. kessel will always be a traitor in boston
Fans didn't run Kessel out of town.
He was offered a contract in the same range as that given to Krejci, but said no thanks. He wasn’t going to get the extra cash in Boston, so he moved on.
He never seemed to have been on Claude’s good side since he was benched in the playoffs.
When it really came down to money, and it seemed that Kessel didn’t want to be part of something special that at the time seemed to be developing in Boston, fans turned on him. It’s not as if he was a legend of the game who left this team.
A couple of things: First, Kessel came off as being greedy at a time when it seemed like the Bruins would be poised to make a run at a Cup this year. Especially when he’s all smiles at his Toronto introduction. He’s smiling not because he’ll have a chance to win the Cup (the Leafs are still a long, long way away from being contenders, sorry guys), but because he got paid. And with Johnny Damon still fresh in the minds of Boston fans, it felt like a double cross. The Bruins pretty well sucking right now doesn’t help matters, either. Many (too many) fans believe the B’s wouldn’t be in the situation they’re in right now if they still had Kessel, and since Chiarelli’s moves may lead to a #1 pick, he escapes blame and it all goes to Kessel for being greedy. Hence, the booing.
Damon brings me to my second point – just like him, Kessel was loved in Boston while he was here, and a bunch of people literally bought into him being a Bruin of the future, snatching up his merchandise. And when you drop $150 on a jersey only to see the player leave 6 months later, aren’t you going to be angry with him?
Ultimately, we’re a frustrated fan base, and Kessel is an easy target.
by Arenacale on Mar 5, 2010 8:22 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
since Chiarelli’s moves may lead to a #1 pick, he escapes blame
You and I must talk to different Bruins fans.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Mar 5, 2010 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
kessel-damon
damon played more years in boston than kessel and was more productive. once damon went to ny every1 hated him but we still cheered for him, who gives a crap about selfish kessel, let him rot in toronto
Real answer: Boston fans love booing.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Mar 5, 2010 12:03 PM EST reply actions
bruins
they love booing?? hahaha atleast we have a better team than toronto and montreal put together even w/o kessel, theres something for you to boooo about canada, lol
I could sit here and agree that Kessel is to blame for your falling apart but I doubt it. Losing his speed has definately hampered our ability to race it around like we did last year but I’m placing most the blame on our defense. Ward shipping out was a bit issue and all the injuries one after another don’t help. I also think Chara’s game is off. In the few Slovakia games I saw during the olympics he looked ineffective. Our defense was brilliant last year and that helped Thomas and the offense. It’s been decimated and Thomas is blamed for having the drop off. We look like we did the year before last. Tight games we can’t win because of lack of offense. In my book though it’s all because the D is bad. We aren’t pushing forward because the defense keeps giving up chances.
I do agree though that Kessel came off as just wanting a big pay day. He didn’t seem to care about the team. I’m sure things would have worked out different if he stuck around this year and we still fell apart. A trade at the deadline or end of the season probably wouldn’t have angered us nearly as much.
About the Kessel payday thing
Even though Toronto might have given him a slightly bigger gross salary than Nashville, due to the differences in tax rates between Ontario/Canada and Tennessee/USA Kessel actually ends up with LESS money in his pocket by signing with the Leafs [by the way I cant which paper i read that in so if anyone knows im wrong please correct me]
And seriously what would you call Lucic’s contract? Chiarelli gave out a payday but to the wrong guy. I can understand the frustrations of Bruins fans considering how things have gone, but when Chiarelli went on the radio and gave that shot to Burke it really got under my skin. He claims he knew the leafs would give him a tiop 10 pick, but did he know that the bruins would proobably get a top 10 on their own? And how does the team with 2 1st rounders NOT end up with Kovalchuk, considering the chaff Ilya ultimately got traded for? Why is this guy wasting a year of the Bruins cup window?
Yea I guess I cant really blame you guys for venting your frustrations on Kessel. Hey at least your probably drafting Hall/Seguin/Fowler.
So good luck with your playoff drive. Fuck the Habs.
Honestly, because bruins fans, like all fan groups, are predominantly made up of morons who think players should feel so privileged to play the game for their team, that said player shouldn’t demand the money he deserves and should play for less than they are worth. =P
Smart fans harbour no ill will against the player.
toronto original six team
havent made playoffs for a couple years. wasnt hockey established in canada?? lol i would be so priviledged to play for toronto just like kessel, get paid, not make the playoffs, and have a crappy summer, yay!!!! canadian fans are the morons not bruins fans
that doesnt even make sense
Who wants to go to the Olive Garden?
by JaredFromLondon on Mar 7, 2010 6:09 PM EST up reply actions
Ill sum it up
The game of hockey often involes contact against a player of the opposing team. This contact can lead to such things as turning over of the puck, momentum swings and fan pandemonium. These hits are kept as a stat, catagorized as HITS. Phil Kessel had 6 hits all of last season. In case you missed that, I said 6 hits. To put that in comparison, 35 year old P.J Axelsson had 56 hits last year.
You dont play a well rounded game, you dont become a fan favorite in Boston.
by SMF360 on Mar 5, 2010 10:38 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Phil Kessel has around the same number of hits as Marc Savard this year. Yet people in Boston love Marc Savard =P
Though I’ll admit, Marc Savard has him beat in the slashing and spearing category =D
hits????
kessel was good in boston and only in boston, we saw him drowned in toronto, and we will see hom continue to drowned, THANK YOU #1 PICK TORONTO!!!
i guess
toronto maple leafs dont have their own blog room thats why they gotta come to the chowda room, bye bye, we got the 1st round pick next year, sorry for kessel and toronto, hahahahahahaa
I’m disappointed Cornelius. I guess you set the bar too high. I expected all Boston fans to be as knowledgeable, clever and witty as you.
Alas, I am disappointed.
Though at least he didn’t spell it Laffs. There may be hope for him yet.
I like to bust on Cornelius, but he is one of our most loyal and passionate members.
by Stanley Cup of Chowder on Mar 6, 2010 8:14 AM EST up reply actions
A-HA!
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Mar 6, 2010 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
pension plan puppets is one of the most successful SBNation blogs, though.
I’m baffled, you’re baffling.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Mar 6, 2010 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
i must admit, we arent fans of kessel anymore. when he was a bruin, i wasnt his biggest fan, but i liked him. he scored a lot of goals, but he didnt play a well rounded game, so he was pretty good in my eyes, but not my favorite. when his whole situation went down last summer, it seemed like the bruins camp was talking about trying to keep him here, and all i heard from his camp was trade demands, then he gets traded, and we hear that he didnt want to be traded, but hes ok in toronto. it seemed like he played his way out of town, and truly didnt want to be in boston, which a lot of fans took as insulting. yeah, we got a kings ransom for him, as well probably get hall, seguin or fowler for him, all players who will quite probably be as good as kessel. people saying they hate him, its a coping mechanism. because it is easier to say that you never liked someone then to admit that you liked them and they broke your heart. its like when you date a girl for a few months, then she breaks up with you. its ok, cause i never really liked her. its all a coping skill.
i do hate kessel though lol
I wouldn’t say he played his way out of Boston, I’d say he bitched/lied his way out. If Kessel had continued playing the game he was playing, and took the contract we offered(I don’t remember what it was :\ ) then we would have had no problem with him staying. But when the things go on like you mentioned in your post, that’s how you get a bad rap in town.
by Please Shoot Me on Mar 6, 2010 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
lol poor wording on my part. by played i meant he played the front office and media into them not thinking he was the bad guy and getting him shipped out of town
by BlueNGoldBomber on Mar 6, 2010 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
Ahhh I gotcha sir. Thank you for clearing that up.
by Please Shoot Me on Mar 6, 2010 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
glass houses there chopper
Who wants to go to the Olive Garden?
by JaredFromLondon on Mar 7, 2010 6:12 PM EST up reply actions
Kessel Question
Kessel said he wanted out, demanded a trade, and said that he wanted “to play in a city that actually cared about hockey” That’s why Bruins fans hate him.
link?
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Mar 12, 2010 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
Kessel Hate is at least 75% due to Boston Media Outlets
Part A: For at least a couple reasons the Boston media never really warmed to Phil,
- Boston’s more physical past (Cam Neely, etc)
- Joe Thornton.
Big soft Joe basically ruined any chance a pure goal scorer or one dimensional offensive player has of being well liked overall in Boston. And once the Boston media decides they don’t like a guy, he’ll never get any help from them in the PR department -just the opposite.
Did Kessel play a complete game? Did he play with his heart on his sleeve? Did he play the style his coach wanted? no and no and no. But Kessel was an essential part of the Bruins last year.
But all that was talked about or discussed was that Kessel wasn’t a 2way player, wasn’t physical enough, etc.
End of last year, Phil played both rounds of the playoffs with a separated shoulder that was bad enough he missed the first month of this year. With that injury he had 11 pts in 11 games and was +7. Again – not mentioned really at all by the media.
In the end Phil didn’t want to play for Claude again, wanted to play in a different system – to most Boston fans that meant he was too soft to stick it out in a tough hockey town and that was the final straw.
Personally I miss him, and I think the team needs him more then they would like to admit. Better find some goal scoring with this #1 pick.
Wow
I cant believe this at all hahaha….so all Bruin fans hate Canada?? How about the Bruin fans that are Canadian?? Its true there are quite a few up here so now that the Olympics are over can we put this Canada vs US crap to rest. Kessel left because he thought he was worth more than what the Bruins were willing to pay. Look at the numbers…they couldnt sign Kessel to much after signing Kreicji and Lucic this past off season. He wanted more and the Leafs wanted him. Who cares its over and done with. He play four years in Beantown scored some goals, made some good plays and made some bad ones. Do I hate Kessel…hardly at all. Do I hate this Canada vs US stuff….you got it.
On another note….those that are tearing Chiarelli for not trading for anyone at the deadline…do you really think we are one player away from being a contender?? Why lose draft picks and prospects when you know this isnt your year. I for one am very happy they didnt blow the farm on a guy like Kovalchuk. Dont get me wrong hes a great players but worth losing a top 5 pick for?? Not for 20 games….and now with Savard out I think not mortgaging the future looks like a good move right now….dont you???
I totally agree with you on the US-Canada BS
by Stanley Cup of Chowder on Mar 13, 2010 7:14 PM EST up reply actions
Very true.
I said it amongst some friends of mine. Chiarelli obviously has a 6th sense since he knew not to trade away draft picks for a middling forwad that would have needed Savard to make him a threat.
On the USA v. Canada thing. I do find it funny that a good number of Bruins fans (local Boston area) cheer the USA chant and don’t seem to realize that their team is mostly Canadian, and that there are Americans on the opposing team from Canada. I mostly notice the “nationalism” at games against the Canadiens though, very tame in comparision when any of the “Anglo” teams come to town.
I still remember the time my parent’s went up to Niagra Falls in Canada and how many of the locals were jealous when my father mentioned I had a ticket package to the Bruins as they were big fans of the team.
Ya plus Phil can’t chug a beer. Went up to UNH a couple years ago and was hanging at the “hockey house”. Phil was up there visiting Blake and we were all shooting the shit. Me, My buddy, Blake, and Phil had a chugging contest. I came in first, Blake, then my buddy. We all finished our beers in under 6 seconds…..Phil chugged down about 1/2 a beer and couldn’t do anymore….HAHAHA what a pussy.
by Dangles-McDonnybrook on Mar 13, 2010 2:02 PM EST reply actions
I’m not built for speed either. I don’t hold that against him.
by Stanley Cup of Chowder on Mar 13, 2010 7:15 PM EST up reply actions
lol a couple other people had ridiculous reason for not liking him anymore/booing him so I figured I’d just add to the ridiculousness a little
by Dangles-McDonnybrook on Mar 17, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Im still surprised that you would boo someone who gave you such a potentially amazing return. What else could you have asked for?
If, in 2/3 years time, the two first rounders and second rounder somehow dont put together 30+ goals I would understand you booing Kessel. Unless you pick defensemen but even then that could pan out in a much better way for Boston. Sure you lost 30+ goals this season without Kessel but I bet you’re cheering the hell out of him in a couple years. If you’re not then I suppose I misunderstand Boston fans.
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