Bruins lay an egg as Flyers shutout B's 4-0 to take Game 5
by Stanley Cup of Chowder on May 10, 2010 10:14 PM EDT
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PrintBrian Boucher (9 saves) and Michael Leighton (14 saves) did not have to work too hard to record the first combined shutout in the NHL playoffs since 1955 as the Bruins failed to create many quality offensive chances in a 4-0 loss to the Flyers in Game 5 on Monday night. Leighton was forced into action after Boucher went down with an apparent lower body injury. Ville Leino, Scott Hartnell, and Simon Gagne (2 goals) all recorded tallies for Philly. The Bruins now hold a 3-2 edge in the series after dropping the last two games to the Flyers.
Ville Leino spotted the Flyers a 1-0 lead 6:41 into the contest. Leino pounced on a rebound in the slot created by a hard one-timer from the right point by Matt Carle. Chris Pronger also picked up an assist on Leino's goal
Hartnell got his first goal of the postseason at 11:16 of the second period. Daniel Briere chipped the puck across the crease and Hartnell batted it out of mid air at the right post to make it 2-0 Flyers.
The Flyers made it 3-0 at 17:53 of the second period on the power play after Steve Begin was whistled for boarding. Scott Hartnell had the puck behind the net and found Simon Gagne at the top of the crease to make it a 3-goal lead late in the second period.
Simon Gagne got his second marker of the game to make it 4-0 at 6:48 of the third period. Dennis Wideman's stick broke while receiving a pass at the offensive blue line, which created a breakaway for the opportunistic Gagne.
Notes:
- The Bruins looked awful tonight. They didn't create offensive chances, they were careless with the puck in their own end of the rink, they let the Flyers camp out at the top of the crease, and they played undisciplined hockey.
- The Bruins unveiled a statue of Bobby Orr this afternoon outside TD Garden.
- The Bruins faked out the spotlight operator when Dennis Wideman's deflected shot hit the post midway through the first period. That stupid thing needs to go away. This just proves my point.
- Norwood High hockey player Matt Brown was in attendance. Brown suffered a spinal cord injury during a game this season and recently came home after spending several months at The Shepherd Center in Atlanta for treatment. Brown reportedly received a big ovation from the Garden crowd.
- Flyers Goalie Michael Leighton (fresh off of an ankle injury) was pressed into action after Brian Boucher suffered a lower body injury in the second period. Boucher looked to tweak something in his knee or leg after Ryan Parent fell on him early in the second period. Tim Panaccio of Comcast Sport Net Philadelphia is reporting that Boucher has a badly sprained knee and the goalie will go for an MRI on Tuesday.
- Things got a little heated with just over 5 minutes left in the game. Mike Richards leveled Marc Savard with a borderline hit and Savard took exception to it. Savard was seeing red and hit Richards with a few high sticks and attempted to throw a gloved upper cut before Milan Lucic joined the fray.
- The Bruins were booed off the ice at the end of the game.
- It is obvious how much the Bruins miss David Krejci.
- What is it about Bobby Orr's presence that makes the Bruins play so poorly? Remember Orr and his 1970 teammates were in the house for the B's disappointing showing against the Penguins back in March.
- Game 6 is Wednesday night in Philly at 8:00
"We got out-battled from start to finish. When you get out-battled, you get frustrated and you take bad penalties"
- Claude Julien after the game talking to NESN's Naoko Funayama
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@TheBruinsBlog What a way to celebrate Bobby Orr Day. By playing like a team of Colton Orr's ... without the toughness.
Matt Kalman of The Bruins Blog & ESPN Boston
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I do hope Boucher is alright. Have there been updates? As someone with multiple knee injuries myself, I hate to see that happen to anyone.
WHAT DID RICHARDS DO TO SAVVY?
I missed most of this game. What happened?
Oh, and the Flyers are in the drivers seat now. You need four wins, not three.
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by bestbostonsports on May 10, 2010 10:46 PM EDT reply actions
I’m guessing that Savvy and Looch were just frustrated. This may have been because their line had mostly played hard, and the rest of their teammates might as well have been taking a nap. It boiled over at the end. Whatever, I’m just glad someone looked like they gave a shit.
Re: the series, history says the Bruins are still an 80% favorite. I’d rather be where the Bruins are than where the Flyers are right now.
i was there last night. the refs were awful. playoff hockey. 2 times in the first 4 mins of the 2nd a Bruin was cross checked in the back eliminating them from the play and two seconds later Savard gets called for a bogus roughing call. is the NHL the new NBA?
bruins had chances to put the biscuit in the basket. Satan had a bad angle chance, there were a few good shots through traffic that Bruins missed tips, etc.
BLAKE WHEELER IS FREAKING TERRIBLE. Numerous chances to chip it deep with speed through the neutral zone and he flips it 5 ft in and it led to Philly odd man rushes.
matt brown got a standing O. The only good thing that happened last night.
that Gagne giveaway? Wideman has seemingly found his game this post-season, but that play was a microcosm for the entire season. Who breaks a stick trying to settle a pass?
by The_Dude_Abides4 on May 11, 2010 8:04 AM EDT reply actions
Could he not
play the puck with his hands swaying it to the other side of the rink ? His trying to protect it with his body just looked awkward.
It’s not just that he was awkwardly “protecting” it…but he just stoped after 2 strides and let Gagne right past to collect the puck. I almost lost a TV last night after watching that. First I sat there in disbelief, when if finally registered that I had actually just witnessed what I did, I was going to heave my beer torwards the screen at Widemans head.
Move Wheeler to the Bergeron line
Does anyone else think that they need to consider putting Wheeler on Bergy’s left wing, instead of Paille? Wheels is infuriating, but when the stars are favorably aligned, he can score, and being centered by Sobotka, Begin or Whitfield isn’t going to help him one bit. Paille can’t even put the puck in an empty net. He’s great on the penalty kill, defensively responsible and his speed can put some pressure on the bad guys. He is a valuable role player and 3rd line/checking line/PK type, but he has no business on a scoring line.
Of course, the fact that Paille/Wheeler as the left wing on the putative #1 line is a debate is a testament to how shallow we are at wing. (Oh, baby Jesus, please give us Taylor Hall on draft day.) Lucic is obviously the best left wing, but he’s been so good paired with Savard and Satan that there’s no point in breaking them up.
Put another way, Wheeler HAS to step up and provide some scoring for this team to have any hope beyond this series. Might as well find out now if he can do it.
No. Wheeler needs to move to the press box. He needs to be benched.
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by bestbostonsports on May 11, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions
For who? Is now, game 6 of the conference semifinals, the time to throw Brad Marchand to the fire?
I don’t disagree that Wheeler’s been disappointing, to put it mildly. But unless he gets it going, this season will end soon. Scoring has to come from somewhere. Recchi and Satan are playing way over their heads (for crying out loud, they’re a combined 79 years old, they’re bound to cool off). Bergeron and Savard can only do so much. Lucic is playing well. Either Wheeler or Ryder (and ideally, both) needs to start providing some offensive punch, because every other forward is a plugger.
Marchand
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by bestbostonsports on May 11, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree. Wheeler hasn’t not been good, but it is not the time to throw Marchand in there.
by Stanley Cup of Chowder on May 11, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
yes it is
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by bestbostonsports on May 11, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Wheeler has been brutal this season and I hope the Bruins trade his worthless ass.
What a waste of a uniform.
I hope he signs for cheap and gets better.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on May 11, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Hes a free agent.
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by bestbostonsports on May 11, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
RFA
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on May 11, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Wheeler is a big kid, he’s got some talent, but he doesn’t seem like he’s quite there yet. His PK play has been pretty damn good this playoffs. I see him getting re-signed, hopefully for a little less, and stay in that role.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on May 11, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
There's still a possibility of promise.
But not at a significant raise, or any raise at all.
But, Peter just seems to fall in love with all of these guys, so we’ll see what he does.
he just sucks
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by bestbostonsports on May 11, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it is way too early to give up on Wheeler. Look what he did in his rookie year. He has talent. He just needs to learn some better hockey sense and learn to use that big body of his.
by Stanley Cup of Chowder on May 11, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe the GM can trade Blake to get a few more first round draft choices because I have not been impressed with his play. I also watched him float around the ice for three years in the WCHA and I wasn’t impressed with him there as well.
I’m not opposed to cashing out on Wheeler. In fact, I think there’s a good possibility that some other team will overpay for his potential in free agency and we’ll work out a compensation package. I’m just worried that we won’t get good value for him. He’s still a young, big, extremely gifted player who’s had some success in the NHL. There’s a good chance he’ll get better. It could easily be another Peter Mueller situation. (Now THERE’S a guy I wish we’d grabbed at the deadline.) The Bruins would be selling when his value was at its lowest.
This isn't a bad idea
Wheeler is also a big frame which complements Bergy and Recchi’s style of play.
THAT SUCKED!!!!!
…but it’s not the end. I think the Bruins win this next one.
Nine goals in Two games……it may time for Timmy.
Nah, you have to give Rask another shot. You can’t keep switching goalies because of high offense games, even if it’s one sided offense. Not yet anyway.
It might just be me, but I don’t see the goaltending as the big issue right now. Didn’t we get humiliated in Game 5 against Buffalo?
No, the goaltending isn’t the big issue. But sometimes switching goalies makes the team play better in front of their new netminder. Just saying…
by WeatherExperiment on May 11, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
I see your though process, but they have played better in front of Rask this year.
by Stanley Cup of Chowder on May 11, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
The D needs to play better in front of the net,
Rask is getting about negative help out there.
Thomas wouldn’t fair too much better, the B’s have got pushed around in front of the net in the last 2 games pretty significantly.
You don’t go with a goalie that hasn’t played in a month. Stick with what got you here. It is hard to fault Tuukka for most of the goals in the past 2 games. Tuukka is the better goalie. I have way more faith in him to win in the playoffs than Tim Thomas.
by Stanley Cup of Chowder on May 11, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Honestly, go ahead and throw Thomas in…At least it will be sort of even now that we have Leights in after 2 months…
Not trolling, just thought you might get a laugh…
"Chris Pronger sneaked in the back door...banged it home."
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Honestly, I think Leighton is an upgrade over Boucher. I’m not sure how hurt Leighton is still, though. I got the feeling that Boucher was overachieving and was starting to crack. He gave up some bad goals in this series.
by Stanley Cup of Chowder on May 11, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
For this season, yes, Leighton was better. But Boucher was playing well in the playoffs, and for their careers, Leighton’s pertinent stats are nearly identical to Boucher’s. And get this: tomorrow night will be his first career Stanley Cup playoff start (and he turns 29 next week, so he’s not exactly on the upswing). So Leighton’s probably not a significant downgrade, but I’m dubious of the notion that he’s an upgrade.
I'm actually concerned
going into the next round if the B’s play like this again anytime soon. But we WILL win game 6 in Philly.
Whoever said it doesn't matter whether you win or lose, probably lost.
Maybe it’s coincidence, but they seem to have a problem with game 5s and a 3-1 lead. They didn’t play quite as bad against Buffalo in game 5, but it was easily their worst game of that series.
I am concerned to.
But the Bruins are still up in the series….. Need 4, not 3.
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by bestbostonsports on May 11, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I Hate To Say It...
I think I have to agree with j3rockstar. The pressure may be getting to Rask and it may be time to bring Tim Thomas into the fray. This thought in no way lets the Bs off the hook for the lackluster play they’ve been showing. Nor should Rask take being benched as a a sign that Coach Julien has no confidence in him. He got us this far and that’s great! He’s going to be a staple in the Bs Organization — he’s proven that. But we also can’t forget that we signed Thomas for a reason — to help the Bs win a Stanley Cup.
I may be wrong about this (benching Rask in favor of Thomas) and I’ll eat crow, I suppose, if it happens, but doesn’t work out for the Bs. However, it may be a smart move at this point.
by WeatherExperiment on May 11, 2010 10:32 AM EDT reply actions
Thomas was the same way last year. He’d give up a softie but make some ridiculous saves and we’d win a game 4-3. We’re seeing the same thing out of Tuukka this post-season. But I find it hard to blame him for the losses. I see more fault in defensive breakdowns, poor back-checking, the occasional broken stick (still baffled by that one).
Taking 9 penalties at home is simply UNACCEPTABLE.
by The_Dude_Abides4 on May 11, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
I totally agree — Rask is not to be blamed. But maybe a goaltending switch will spark the offense.
And funny you say that about the broken sticks. I thought the same thing. Guess they don’t make ’em like they used to. :)
by WeatherExperiment on May 11, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
No. That would be the worst possible move to make. Rask is better. This cannot be seriously disputed. Pulling him at this point would be the wrong move in the short term and the long term.
by Phunwin on May 11, 2010 11:27 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Well, like I said, I may be wrong. But for better or worse, they need to do something different now. The Flyers have gotten hot and we have two more games to figure out how not to get burned by them.
by WeatherExperiment on May 11, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m not blaming Rask either. He’s played great….but, I think you need to do something to change things up a bit. If Timmy goes in, it has to be game 6. Game 7 will be too late.
Tim Thomas is not the answer because goaltending is the least of their problems.
by Stanley Cup of Chowder on May 11, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
agree
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by bestbostonsports on May 11, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Could be worse, I guess...
We could all be Coyotes fans right now.
(Stay strong, Phoenix…keep throw’n ’em snakes!)
Glendale’s totally fucked if they don’t keep the coyotes – that arena is going to be a big tax-money sink without a permanent tenant.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on May 11, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
And who the hell is going to do shows/concerts there when the Suns’ place is downtown? Total money pit, and a major warning to everyone who jumps on the publicly-funded arena bandwagon. It’s a bad situation all around.
If this situation leads to fewer tax dollars going to arenas and stadiums, it will be worth it.
by Phunwin on May 11, 2010 11:25 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Can’t disagree there. One thing I will grant Jacobs – he did not use a significant amount of public funding to get the new Garden built (according to this page it was mostly bank financed with 10% coming from city bonds).
Well, give Jacobs credit, but Boston city and Mass. state government have a long tradition of telling owners “eff you” when they come asking for public funds. One of the competing Red Sox ownership groups, before John Henry & Co. bought the team, was trying to get a publicly financed Fenway Park. That went over like a fart in church.
It’s ironic that’s like a homecoming for Shane Doan? I don’t know what to do with my hands?
by The_Dude_Abides4 on May 11, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Seriously hoping if the coyotes move that they don’t go to winnipeg, mostly out of spite for the Make It Seven campaign.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on May 11, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
soooooo tired of hearing “Bring back the Whalers”
Hartford couldn’t sell out a free hockey game if they wanted to
The arena is still there but the bulk of the mall that surrounded it has been redeveloped. Hartford would need a new arena long term to make it all work (hell, Hartford needs a new arena period, the XL makes the Centrum seem plush).
Naming rights suck.
It will always, always be the Worcester Centrum. With that 45 degree cut into the C for a logo. And goofy animations on the scoreboard.
The Centrum/DCU Center always felt like an airplane hanger to me. Maybe it was the lighting or the puke colored seats or something, but that place is dingy and depressing as hell.
by Stanley Cup of Chowder on May 11, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s the lighting, beige paint, and seat colors…but they’ve been upgrading the place so it’s a little different now. Plus, they have a video board, etc…I think more suites are coming in the next couple of years, along with other upgrades.
Personally, it’s as much a home arena to me as the Garden, since my dad started bringing me to monster truck shows there as a young’n, and I’ve gone annually since. My avatar is from there.
I went to monster truck event there when I was like 7. All I remember is that was an interesting crowd.
by Stanley Cup of Chowder on May 11, 2010 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s what I’m saying right here.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on May 11, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Why do you hate Canada?
Ha, I joke of course. Is it the city of Winnipeg you don’t want them moved to? What if it’s to Ontario?
Oh, just the on-high THIS IS ARE GAME that came out of a lot of canadians (with Jim Balsillie as the lead asshole) really rubbed me the wrong way.
Also, really…what changed in Winnipeg since the last time a team failed there?
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on May 11, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
If they do go to Winnipeg I eagerly await the Balsillie “Gary, tell me how my ass tastes, eh!” club video.
Living about 15O miles from the MTS center I would welcome a return to Winnipeg. The Jets never should have left Winnipeg. I would see my Bruins a game live every now and then if they moved back to WInnipeg. Very user friendly trip straight north on I-29…
Corporate sponsorship was the big issue there.
by Stanley Cup of Chowder on May 11, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s related to market size, too. You can only sell so many overpriced jerseys in a city with a sub-700,000 metro area, and businesses can only reach so many potential customers. The problem with Winnipeg and Quebec are that they’re pretty isolated in comparison with most American cities (like Boston) that can have 80% of their metro area in the suburbs.
But not at the expense of another fanbase.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on May 12, 2010 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions
You are a strong push for this huh?
Would you have preferred the Jets never moved in the first place though?
Yeah probably that too. Rooting for people to lose their team is just such a shitty thing to do.
Unless it’s the habs.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on May 12, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, that is a dumb statement. Take away one of the most passionate fans bases, but keep a team that is bleeding money that 3 people actually care about? It’s not good for the league to have a team on life support.
by Stanley Cup of Chowder on May 12, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
So if you had the magic wand.
And you could determine the size (number of teams) and where they played in the NHL, where would you place them?
It would even be funnier if the Coyotes/Jets remain a good team and get into playoff rivalries with San Jose. An epic playoff series between the Winnipeg Jets and the San Jose Sharks would truly be a West Side story in the Western Conference. (But all would certainly not be quiet on the Western front.)
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by Stanley Cup of Chowder on May 11, 2010 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd be down to see a team in Seattle
Or Wisconsin, or some other colder state that has an untapped fanbase
Milwaukee
Was like 5th in Winter Classic ratings, IIRC, and thanks to the Badgers has some deep college hockey ties. I think they’d need an outright new arena, though.
I think Milwaukee would be a good market. AHL and college hockey has worked in that area. Might be a lot of Blackhawks fans that you would have to win over.
by Stanley Cup of Chowder on May 11, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
No worries here @ all
The B’s know they were relying on each other and they failed. Now they go to Philly with this looming over their heads still. They won’t lose another battle. And besides they had a great away record all year long!
Does a bear shit in the woods?
In General - the playoffs have been played at a level way above my expectation
Losing this series after a 3-0 lead would hurt, but really this is a lot of gravy hockey for me right now.
Still hard for me to see the B’s winning the cup this year, or even getting into the Finals.
The D is getting by, but Seidenberg woudl be such a benefit to have these days.
And Krecji is sorely missed offensively, he was one of the best play makers we had.
I think Marchand should dress vs Whitfield in game 6, we need more scrap and edge in there.
They are playing with house money. You are right about that.
by Stanley Cup of Chowder on May 11, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
If Boston advances, the opponent is either 1) Pittsburgh, the defending SC winner from last year and defending EC champion and “de facto” best team in the Eastern Conference, no matter what the standings actually say; or 2) Montreal, where the goalie has been Halaking other teams.
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