Joe Haggerty: Bruins' top priority is to move Tim Thomas
by Stanley Cup of Chowder on Jun 21, 2010 4:43 PM EDT
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PrintJoe Haggerty of CSNNE.com is reporting that according to his sources the Bruins #1 priority this off-season is to move Tim Thomas. According to Haggerty, Thomas has been shopped to the San Jose Sharks, Philadelphia Flyers, and Tampa Bay Lightning.
I think the Bruins need to move Thomas and not just to write his contract off the books. Thomas obviously wants to be the #1 goaltender and that is not going to happen now that Tuukka Rask has won the job. Thomas is scheduled to make $6 million ($5 million cap hit) next season. That is a lot money to pay a guy that will be working the door 50 nights a year. Thomas has had to work hard to get to where he is today and I get the feeling that he does not want to be a back-up at this stage in his career. Having a guy like Thomas around that feels as though he should be the starter and is making starter's money can not be good for the room. Giving Tim Thomas the opportunity to start somewhere else is the best move for all parties involved. Now, the Bruins just need to find a sucker trade partner that is willing to take on one of the worst contracts in the league for a overrated, 36-year-old goalie coming off of off-season hip surgery.
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Whoa
Why the venom all of a sudden? I agree the contract is bad but “sucker” and “overrated”? A bit steep in my estimation.
What do you mean “all of a sudden”? I never drank the Tim Thomas Kool-Aid. I questioned his extension from the very beginning.
by Stanley Cup of Chowder on Jun 21, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
a sweet two year deal would have been much more practical.
But such is life. Let’s hope someone wants to play ball (puck?)
Any sort of SCOC meeting for the draft party at Hard Rock Cafe on Friday?
No, I will be away. I think I heard something about the Bruins putting up a big screen down near Fanueuil Hall.
I will probably have an open thread type thing on Friday night.
by Stanley Cup of Chowder on Jun 21, 2010 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup, the Bruins are having a viewing party…and there will be an alternative to going over to Hard Rock after the big screen part.
Here’s the info: http://www.stanleycupofchowder.com/2010/6/22/1529966/outdoor-big-screen-draft-viewing
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 22, 2010 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I remember seeing that and thinking “wow, I’d like to keep Timmy around, but geez.” The problem is that teams often reward excellent players with big contracts as a way to make up for them being underpaid. Thomas was a #1 goalie on a very cheap deal, and the deal in the offseason was obviously a “make up” for that. PC isn’t the first GM to do that, and won’t be the last.
I’ll see you there!
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 22, 2010 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions
You might be right that he’s overpaid, but there is a Jennings and Vezina in that Tim Thomas Kool-Aid, and that aint too shabby. He didn’t suck that bad this year the forwards in front of him did. I hope Tuukka is ready to take the keys!
by SkateHitShoot on Jun 21, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s the third-best goalie in the division.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 22, 2010 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Any chance we can trade him to the Oakland Raiders? Probably get a first round pick out of it
by DanTuc27 on Jun 21, 2010 9:01 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Shhhh....
Ix-nay on the worst contracts in the league for a overrated, 36-year-old goalie comments.
I don’t 100% agree with you – but I don’t completely disagree with you either.
In reality, we’ll probably need to take back a not-so-great contract for a decent player (which is roughly what we’re giving up…)
Tampa Bay is an interesting thought, but only if the B’s are focused on just dumping salary. They’re well under the salary cap with few free agents of note. They have $21M in cap space this season. Stamkos and St. Louis are their only elite players, with Hedman the only other untouchable, and Kurtis Foster the only free agent worth a damn. Lecavalier is a good player but might well be the owner of the “worst contract in the NHL” title. (Seriously, look at that thing; it’s him or DiPietro for sure.)
Thomas and #15 for the #6 pick might be good for both teams. The B’s save money and probably get one of the top 3 defensemen. The Lightning get a true #1 goalie and still have a valuable first round pick.
I forgot about Ricky D’s deal. I did say “one of the worst”, though.
by Stanley Cup of Chowder on Jun 21, 2010 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think TB makes a lot of sense. They have Mike Smith, who you guys probably don’t want, and I think they want to re-sign Nittymaki.
Worst contracts in the NHL though? I’d like to nominate Briere and his body made of glass. Or Wade Redden.
If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominos will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate.
There is one contract that trumps all of that. Although technically he did get bought out, the Islanders are still paying for Yashin.
by BruinsSelectSeguin on Jun 22, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I wasn’t disagreeing with you. Thomas’ contract is surely among the 25 worst in the NHL. I just wanted to call attention to Lecavalier’s contract and how bad that is, since Tampa Bay came up.
Speaking of which, check out this genius’ trade rumor: “@TSNBobMcKenzie what do you think. Malone to bos, kaberle to tampa, tor gets 2nd overall pick”
I think McKenzie was being very kind in not beginning his response with the word “retard”.
That is an awful deal and would never happen.
by Stanley Cup of Chowder on Jun 21, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
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by bestbostonsports on Jun 21, 2010 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t envy Mckenzie for having to deal with the flood of idiocy he must get on twitter on a daily basis.
by BruinsSelectSeguin on Jun 22, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Can this put the Savard rumors to rest now?
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by bestbostonsports on Jun 21, 2010 11:56 PM EDT reply actions
why not?
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by bestbostonsports on Jun 22, 2010 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Thomas has never been a definitive #1. Even last year when he won the Vezina, Fernandez played a significant amount of games. They were a goalie tandem for much of the year.
by Stanley Cup of Chowder on Jun 22, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
And it was AWESOME
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 22, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
It's hard to figure Timmy out
On one hand, just a great story last year and a career year.
On the other, perhaps that was his peak.
He’s never been a consistent goalie, I for one even last year was wondering when he’d revert back to his former self.
I don’t mind him as a back up, I’m not crazy about his contract – and I’m really not sure what benefit the B’s have in moving him because they still need to back up Tukka and they’d have to take on at least $3M of contract to move Timmy.
This is a mistake!!
The only issue here is that the contract is not cap friendly. Tank has played his ass off, and has always been solid. Somewhere down the line he fell out of CJ’s good graces. He should have been played in that Flyers series when Tuukka started to stumble. If PC can move him to a place that he’ll be happy, then I say more power to him. Timmy shouldn’t be getting the kind of %$*& that everyone gives him. You want a scapegoat, look to CJ!!!!
He didn’t “fall out of good graces,” he “wasn’t as perfect as Rask” and behind the bad team in front of him that wasn’t enough.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 22, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Player Team GP GS W L OT SA GA GAA Sv Sv% SO G A PIM TOI
1 Tuukka Rask BOS 45 39 22 12 5 1221 84 1.97 1137 .931 5 0 3 2 2,562:11
2 Tim Thomas BOS 43 43 17 18 8 1221 104 2.56 1117 .915 5 0 0 8 2,441:52
They’re not THAT different. Your’re right, behind a team that can’t score….Tuukk obviously LOOKS like the better goaltender.
.915 is a fantastic save percentage. For comparison purposes, that’s around the save percentage that Chemmy over on PPP calculated that the leafs would need to make the playoffs this past year instead of second-worst in the league.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 22, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
So, what’s the answer here? Kevin Regan? Jose Theodore?
If they move Thomas, but keep some of their questionable defensemen…it will come back to bite them!!
Dan Ellis!
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 22, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
The free agent market is STACKED with goaltending. If the Bruins trade Thomas, they should have no trouble finding a respectable backup on a $1 – 2M salary. Or, wherever Tank is traded, getting back a decent backup in return as part of the trade. Tampa Bay would have Mike Smith to offer; the Isles, Dwayne Roloson, etc.
Worrying about backup goaltending when your entire team suffered an epic drop in scoring is sort of like watching your house burn to the ground and complaining about the charred grass.
Tuukka carried this team for stretches this season.
by Stanley Cup of Chowder on Jun 22, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, Rask was unreal this year. And the Bruins had basically no scoring, so they needed a goalie god to win them games. But Thomas gets a lot more shit than he deserves.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 22, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Tim Thomas would not have made the difference in that series.
by Stanley Cup of Chowder on Jun 22, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Really? You think playing an injured goalie who had barely played the last month or so of the season and all of the postseason would be the right move?
by Stanley Cup of Chowder on Jun 22, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s actually that the Bruins were a bad team all year, lucky to be in a bad conference so they could make the playoffs, much less the second round.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 22, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
didn’t give Timmy a very fair shot, and that they seem to be using him at the scapegoat for this teams record by trying to move him and not addressing the guys in front of him.
-Ference gets an extension.
-Tank gets moved.
-Stuart and/or Boychuk look like they will walk.
How does that work????
My post got cut-off….
It sounds like I’m anti-Tuukka…..but that’s not the case.. My problem was that they didn’t give Timmy a very fair shot, and that they seem to be using him at the scapegoat for this teams record by trying to move him and not addressing the guys in front of him.
-Ference gets an extension.
-Tank gets moved.
-Stuart and/or Boychuk look like they will walk.
How does that work????
He had plenty of chances to keep his job. Tuukka won the job. We all knew this day was coming.
by Stanley Cup of Chowder on Jun 22, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
“Okay, Tim…we’re gonna maybe score one or two goals, so we need you to be perfect, okay? Oh, and if you let one in people will start chanting the name of that other goalie over there. No pressure.”
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 22, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Not that I wish bad on Tuukkamania...
…but what is the plan if he falls into a second year slump? Everyone here going to turn on him like they did Tank?
YES THEY MOST CERTAINLY ARE!!!!
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 22, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Boston fans are pretty hated outside Boston and to be honest I don’t blame them.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 22, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Let's ask Tommy from Quincy:
Rask is the second fackin’ comin’ of Andy Mooooooooooog and don’t you DAY-AH say othahwise! LOOOOOOOOOCH!"
Yeah but I can’t go to Bruins games via subway in North Dakota, neither.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 24, 2010 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions
HOLY F!!!
According to TSN, the Bruins have acquired Nathan Horton and Gregory Campbell from Florida for Dennis Wideman and the No. 15 pick in Friday’s draft.
http://www.stanleycupofchowder.com/2010/6/22/1530541/horton-deal-heating-up
or
http://www.stanleycupofchowder.com/2010/6/18/1525577/is-4m-nathan-horton-coming-to
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 22, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
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