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Gregory Campbell files for arbitration

Newly-acquired center Gregory Campbell informed the Bruins prior to Monday's 5:00 PM deadline that he is filing for arbitration. Campbell was part of the deal that sent Nathan Horton to Boston. The current restricted free agent had a cap hit of $762,500 last season while playing for the Florida Panthers.

Gregory Campbell and Blake Wheeler are the only Bruins slated to go to arbitration this summer.

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I say let him go if he wants anything more than 900k-ish. We’re all set at center and have scrappy tough guys as well. No use shelling out extra cash for something you already have in my opinion.

I don’t know how the arbitration judge chooses a figure, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he gets awarded more than he deserves (I.e Colin makes the judge hook it up)

by delta on Jul 6, 2010 11:34 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

With Arbitration, as far as I meagerly understand it, they look at similar players and how much those players are making. The player and his agent probably will say “But Boogaard got 1.65 million” and Chiarelli and co basically spend the time crapping on the player.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 7, 2010 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good point about the Boogaard contract. Boogaard has only scored 2 goals during his entire career (5 seasons, 255 games), and Campbell scored 2 goals in 60 games last season. I’m thinking Campbell shouldn’t get anything higher than $900k.

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by AdamBruinsFan21 on Jul 7, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think we’ve uncovered Sather’s plan. He knows he’s going to get screwed by arbitration with Marc Staal, so he’s out to screw every team through arbitration too!

by BruinsSelectSeguin on Jul 7, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

u cant really compare boogaard to campbell

boogaard is 6-8 257lbs. If anyone has ever watched him fight he has train pistons attach to his body. And idk if you guys have ever watched campbell’s fights but it is no where comparable, i dont see how campbell will make more than 900,000 k this yr. all charelli has to do is fire up the ol computer, go to youtube, type in gergory campbell and show fight after fight of him getting his face mushed. But i feel like we caught him at his low point. He had 13 goals 32 pts in 2008 to 2 goals 17 pts last yr. he could be a very productive 4th line center

by bman7 on Jul 7, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not to mention that with Thornton in the lineup, Campbell will likely not need to drop the gloves as often.

by BruinsSelectSeguin on Jul 7, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I used Derek Boogaard as a hilariously bad contract.

He last scored on January 7, 2006 for crying out loud.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 7, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nearly pre-lockout.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 7, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Derek Boogaard has 15 career points.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 7, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I bet he has powerplay time from when lemaire was there. LEMAIRE YOU BASTARD

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 7, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

i’d be curious at what his average TOI must be for his career. Like 3:00?

by BruinsSelectSeguin on Jul 7, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

5:08 or something.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 7, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

fixed
he could potentially be a very productive 4th line center

by delta on Jul 7, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

You can use a similar player’s contract as comparison as long as that player was not signed as an unrestricted free agent. So, using Boogaard as comparison would not be considered admissible evidence

by Stanley Cup of Chowder on Jul 7, 2010 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didn’t know that, thanks.

So looking for a comparable, I (of course) went to Hockey-reference and cut it down to this group by ppg, PIMs, Games played (after removing anyone whose time there was pre-lockout)

1 Stephane Veilleux 2003-2010 – ended up signing a one-year/$737,500 contract with the Wild of 08-09 to avoid salary arbitration.
4 Gregory Campbell 2004-2010 – the man of the hour
5 Brian Sutherby 2003-2009 – signed a one-year/$700,000 contract with the Ducks in 2008 as an RFA.
6 Jordin Tootoo 2004-2010 – is a better player than Campbell, got a two-year, $600,000 AAV contract back in 2006 as an RFA
7 Matt Bradley 2001-2007 – might be too out of date to matter, and apparently signed a UFA contract before he signed as a RFA one year later, and I can’t find any numerical data. Making 1 million a year now.

(AAV stands for Average Annual Value, aka Cap Hit)

So I’m hopeful he’s not going to go over 800,000.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 8, 2010 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Don't the B's have enough young talent at F on the farm that they should leave room for them to come up?

Caron, Colbrun, Hamill, ….wouldn’t one of these guys be best-suited to spend time at the NHL level. Why would the B’s bother with another plugger?

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Which B's team is this?

by eyebob on Jul 8, 2010 10:38 AM EDT reply actions  

all those players you mentioned aren’t fully developed yet. But I agree that at least one of them should spend some time at the NHL level.

by delta on Jul 8, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, true, but they are not far away.

Put it this way, would you rather be running a plugger/thug out 8 minutes per game or would you rather give a young buck that same time? To me the choice is easy.

bt

Which B's team is this?

by eyebob on Jul 8, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Would you rather the young developing player build confidence with 15-20 minutes a night in the AHL or play 5-6 with Shawn Thornton and whatever 4th-line-winger we get for the other side? I’d rather they get more playing time, especially if they’ll still be eligible for a full entry-level-contract afterwards.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 8, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly. If one of those guys makes the roster, they probably wouldn’t be skating on the 4th line. I look for Campbell to fill Begin’s role (hopefully better than Begin did).

by Stanley Cup of Chowder on Jul 8, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

were those questions for my response?

let me clarify. I think one of the players he mentioned certainly should see some nhl ice time. If one of them is playing good, throw him in there.

I don’t think we should throw one of those players in for the hell of it. You gotta earn it, right? Plus, you can always count on injuries.

by delta on Jul 9, 2010 12:19 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

My point is that there are different levels of “NHL ice time.” If all he’s going to do is grind it out on the fourth line and give the NHL players a breather, then lets let him get more used to being a top-line player in the AHL or OHL instead. If not for confidence-building, then just to get used to playing 20 minutes a game for a full season.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 9, 2010 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Colbrun is a Blake Wheeler clone, big not very physical and has probably more offensive up side than Wheeler. I think a year in the Minors would do him well.

by Eric B on Jul 8, 2010 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Guys, who’s Colbrun? Let’s talk about Joe Colburne instead.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 9, 2010 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mon Dieu! Hoisted by my own petard!

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 12, 2010 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Caron
2. Along with Seguin, Jordan Caron is the closest to NHL-ready. There’s not much flashy about the right wing. But he does a lot of things efficiently. Decent speed. Very good puck protection skills. Excellent snap shot. Wide body. Caron plays a pro-style game.
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Sounds like he’d be just about ready to come in and be a good Sturmy type. I’m for it.

by Arenacale on Jul 9, 2010 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

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