New lines this AM: Marchand-Bergeron-Horton, Lucic-Kelly-Seguin, Pouliot-Krejci-Peverley & Caron, Paille-Campbell-Thornton. ^BISH
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Curious to see how Horton plays on a line that has legitimate defensive responsibilities. Not a fan of Seguin at wing in favor of Kelly. That’s also the two worst faceoff centers on the team on the same line, but if you moved Peverley to that line, you’re leaving your best (current) offensive center with Pouliot and Kelly on his wings.
by Michael Taylor on Oct 19, 2011 12:01 PM EDT reply actions
huh, so Horton effectively loses the team any chance of getting tied up and remains on a first line? I know I’m not supposed to question Claude with that ring, but the hell?
When he’s not going out of his fucking mind, he’s a really good player
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Oct 19, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry that mister-won-2-game-sevens sealed a loss 6 games into the regular season. BENCH HIM
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Oct 19, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah yeah. Still, a little accountability is a good thing. I’m not talking about hitting the press box, just temporary demotion for boneheadedness
I don’t think the current state of affairs is the end of the world or anything; the team is not in crisis… yet. However, Horton scoring some winning goals last year doesn’t mean he should be above being held accountable this year.
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by phonymahoney on Oct 19, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
It was for sure a dumb play, but they need that intensity that they have been lacking. The just need to do it at the right times.
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by Dave Carignan on Oct 19, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I love Horton’s intensity, but when he gets mad, he tends to get really mad, and the team doesn’t usually benefit from it..
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by phonymahoney on Oct 19, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
counterpoint

this is kinda awesome
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Oct 19, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Touche! Luckily I used the term “doesn’t usually” rather than “never” re: his angry antics!
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by phonymahoney on Oct 19, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Looks like it felt pretty good.
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by Dave Carignan on Oct 19, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Contrary to my read from this twitter update, Haggs is reporting this as Horton to the second line, with Kelly getting promoted to the first (presumably for getting physically involved at the RIGHT time). I’m placated.
Meh…I don’t know how much I like that. There doesn’t seem to be any rhyme or reason for those combinations. You need some goal scoring, so why not go with something like Marchand-Seguin-Peverly? Those guys account for like 85% of the team’s points. I like Kelly, but having him center Sega and Looch is like like putting a lawn mower engine in a Ferrari. He’s just going to hold those guys back as far as production goes and he can’t cover both Sega and Looch’s lack defensive ability(nice try there Claude).
I’d like to see:
Marchand-Seguin-Peverly
Lucic-Bergeron-Horton
Pouliot-Krejci-Kelly
Krejci doesn’t stay on that 3rd line for long but he’s going to need a few games to get up to speed again.
Also, as much as I wanted to have Caron be in the line up this season, he has done jack shit and Pouliot has played very well.
Dan Paille is tied for 3rd in goal-scoring for the Bruins right now. Let’s not make any hasty decisions based on 6 games.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Oct 19, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Pouliot has been looking great, I hope he starts connecting soon. Caron hasn’t impressed me this year.
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by phonymahoney on Oct 19, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Mike just brought up an interesting point in email – what are the chances that the Bruins, unlike the Hawks, had too LITTLE turnover following their Cup year?
Certainly is an intriguing concept…
by BobbyOrrsBastard on Oct 19, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
how much turnover was there for the detroit repeat teams?
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Oct 19, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
excellent question. wish i had the time to look it up right now.
by Ryan Durling on Oct 19, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Just eyeballing it, but they had very little turnover. That being said, the 97-98 Red Wings were a very veteran laden team. Their best players were all late 20’s early 30’s as opposed to early 20’s.
by Michael Taylor on Oct 19, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Lost 36 games from Bob Errey and 34 from Tomas Sandstrom.
Replaced with 61 from Brent Gilchrist and 53 from Mike Knuble.
And swapped backup goalies.
So not much at all.
by BobbyOrrsBastard on Oct 19, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Note that I only looked at guys with 20+ games played. Knuble actually played 9 the year before on the first team.
by BobbyOrrsBastard on Oct 19, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
shakeup via trade
Bruins should make a trade for a veteran winger, say a Ray Whitney type. By moving one of the players who will be an RFA at the end of the season it will possibly make these guys realize NO-Ones job is secure, just because you won last year.
I know it’s early but this team cannot fall too far behind because it will be to hard to make up the losses as the season goes on.
Amazing how a handful of games changes things.
I wasn’t pleased that the roster was unchanged coming in to the season. Many people said it was foolish and there was no need to make changes.
Now, just a few games in to the season, a call is starting to be made to shake up the team? Even though I thought more moves should have been made – it’s way too early to do anything now. If Chiarelli was comfortable with this team, let it ride itself out. No injury has occurred, nothing really unsurprising has happened … just wait and see for a while.
Yes, amazing
But Chia has the cap space to be able to add a winger and not effect the current roster so much except to push someone to the press box for a night or two. Right now, they do not have the talent in their system to be able to comfortably do that AND win games. So, you are corect in such that maybe trading someone on the roster would not be advisable right now, but still an option if not a true “impact” player.
As the deadline comes around, if they are still cr@pping the bed, then the dump starts.
The whole reasoning for not making moves was so that the Bruins could give younger players, like Caron, time to establish themselves and see how things work. Now, rather than sign a free agent a month or so ago, the logic is to trade away a young player for an impact player.
So it’s better to trade away a youthful asset than it is to sign a free agent who will block him. Makes no sense to me at all.
Caron
IMO, is a bad example. I have been watching him since they drafted him and am not convinced he is anything more than a 3rd or fourth line winger, if at all.
I am not saying to so anything drastic, but really, how long can this team wait to wake up? This team is playing a LOT like they did 2 years ago when they couldn’t score goals and really, the roster is not that much different.
They can probably wait quite some time to wake up. A 2-4 stretch isn’t a horrible stretch at all. They’re a little bit of luck (against Carolina r.1 or Philly) away from being a .500 team.
They’ve also been shooting a miserable 5% this year. That’s incredibly unlikely to continue. Put it at average (just under 10%) and the team would probably have a better record.
I don’t see a need to change at all.
Agree with this. There’s no way they can keep creating so many scoring chances without the % improving. That would be really unlikely.
I don’t see a need for change. They have the parts they need, they just need to play three complete periods, IMO.
Kick his ass, Seabass!
by phonymahoney on Oct 19, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Caron could be a solid 2nd liner, personally. He’s had a bad few games, but at the start of last season, he was looking pretty good. I don’t think we need to move anyone yet. Come midseason, I may be on the same page as you re: a veteran, but I don’t see the need yet.
Kick his ass, Seabass!
by phonymahoney on Oct 19, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
A player like say..
Chris Clark would have probably been a good signing. Go figure..
Also, a “shake up” can also be a free agent signing. This still pushes someone else to the sidelines but does not (technically) subtract from the roster. I know there are not that many left, but this team needs something (one).
Chris Clark. You mean the guy that got beat out for a job on the Bruins … signing him would be a good way to show the team that anyone can be benched? Wouldn’t it illustrate the opposite?
yep
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Oct 20, 2011 7:16 AM EDT up reply actions
And yet that team finished a win away from the ECF…
by BobbyOrrsBastard on Oct 19, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
A call is starting to be made by amazingly reactionary fans.
Probably the same fans that demanded a massive overhaul after the reverse sweep in ’09 playoffs…
by BobbyOrrsBastard on Oct 19, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Really?
I am THRILLED and still dumfounded that THIS team won the Cup last year. They did, however, do it in heart attack fashion and anyone who thinks they could win it again in the same fashion with generally the same cast of characters is only fooling themselves. WAY to much has to go their way AGAIN in order for that to happen.
This team has been lacking offense for a few years now and somehow managed to win 3 game sevens (2 in OT remember) to win the cup.
IMO, they need more talent in order to repeat. The odds are just not in their favor.
The team that gets the 5th most shots on goal in the NHL this season, scored the 5th most goals in the NHL last season, and had the third most shots on goal last season … that’s the one that you say has problems with offense?
This team has holes, but it’s on the blue line, not up front.
Goals for: 30th
Goals against: 12th
Goals/game: 21st
Small sample? Maybe, but out of 6 games they have only one 2, and 1 was a “shootout” win
“Maybe” a small sample? What in your size constitutes a big sample? 7 games?
And by stating that you’re using a small sample, what you’re really stating is, “The above numbers aren’t reliable” so there really is no need for me to refute them as you’ve already done that yourself.
by Bourque77 on Oct 19, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Come on now Bourque… everyone knows that a figure is statistically valid if you need to use more than one hand to count the samples…
by BobbyOrrsBastard on Oct 19, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Let's revisit
..in another 14 games. I hope I am wrong, but I do not like what I am seeing nor am I implying anyone else here does as well.
I am just offering my opinion, and yes, my opinion occasionally may stink to some of you but am trying to offer solutions to make the Bruins better. Any fault in that?
The only thing so far that I’m not pleased with is the team’s penalty minutes. Everything else is not really anything that’s a concern.
If the team is still outshooting their opponents a ton after 14 more games, I’ll still be fine at that time, even if the record is 6-14 and the team is dead last in goals scored.
That’s less than 10% of the season… try extremely small sample. Sometimes it takes a few games to make it click… also, last season, it was rare that I would feel like we didn’t have the firepower to come back from being down a few goals. This year, most of the same guys are here, it just takes a bit sometimes.
Kick his ass, Seabass!
by phonymahoney on Oct 19, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
This team has been lacking offense for a few years now
The team that was 5th in the NHL last year and 2nd three seasons ago has been lacking in offense for years?? Apparently EVERY team is lacking in offense in your opinion.
Yea, I’m done paying any attention to anything you say.
by BobbyOrrsBastard on Oct 19, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
So in other words you want them to trade Krejci or Rask. They are the only pending RFA’s…
by BobbyOrrsBastard on Oct 19, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
corerction..
UFAs. My bad. I would not be sad to see Lucic go, however, if we could get something valuable in return. I am not convinced he is what they think he is (first line winger), at least not from what I have seen.
So have a shake-up by trading away your 4th liners or back of the bench D?
That’s not really a shake-up … the only guys that are UFAs are: Kelly, Campbell, Paille, Thornton, Corvo, and Boychuk.
The only one of any consequence in there is Corvo – and the team just picked him up 6 games ago, so I doubt he’s moving.
Kelly, Thornton and Campbell
all have value in the market, especially now that they have rings. 2 of the 3 are centers, and the Bruins are deep on center. Krejci, Bergeron and Seguin are easily top 3 centers on this team and 4th line center can be had.
And no, I am not smoking wacky stuff and do not drink. It’s my opinion, and I am sticking to it.
The Bruins picked up Kelly for a 2nd rounder. That’s not much at all. Unless you think he’s done a ton since then, in which case, why would you trade him?
Thornton was a healthy scratch during a lot of the playoffs. I don’t think that makes his ring all that valuable. The Bruins don’t play him 10 minutes a night, so I don’t see anyone too excited to take him on.
Greg Campbell was a throw-in in a trade just a season ago. He proceeded to get used in a lesser role than he did in Florida (getting 2 minutes less per game). I don’t see him having any value.
I also challenge the fact that a guy listed above as playing wing (Seguin) is easily one of the top 3 centers on the team.
So trade last season’s leading goal scorer because of 6 games? Let’s trade Chara and Rask while we are at it too!
Meh. I haven’t been a Looch fan since before the playoffs began. I wouldn’t hate seeing him go.
Kick his ass, Seabass!
by phonymahoney on Oct 19, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I am totally for them moving Looch, provided they get someone worthwhile in return.
Kick his ass, Seabass!
by phonymahoney on Oct 19, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Marchand-Bergeron-Horton: Marchand and Bergeron make sweet sweet music together and I like Horton there.
Lucic-Kelly-Seguin: leftovers line.
Pouliot-Krejci-Peverley & Caron: yes, yes, yes. I wanna see this line do work.
Paille-Campbell-Thornton: our 4th line remains a bright spot for the team
and the lines by cup rings:
1-1-1
1-1-1
0-1-1&0
1-1-2
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Oct 19, 2011 12:20 PM EDT reply actions
Why exactly include the Cup rings bit? Any line combos Boston trots out there would have practically the same look.
Only way you get a weird one is if Thornton played with Caron and Pouliot.
by BobbyOrrsBastard on Oct 19, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Why exactly include the Cup rings bit?
Because I’m still celebrating. May as well, since the team is.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Oct 19, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Well said!
They did it for Savy, they did it for Horton, they did it for each other, they did it for us. I give you the 2011 Stanley Cup Champions....The Boston Bruins!!
RIGHT? He is clearly a cornerstone in our franchise, and the secret to our success!
Kick his ass, Seabass!
by phonymahoney on Oct 19, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
If only Rechi was still playing. He’d be on the top line with Thronton and the Bruins would be winning games 12-0.
12-0? You must be talking about Joe Thornton.
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by Dave Carignan on Oct 19, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
That guy is a hack, he has a grand total on none rings. Of course he does have a gold medal for international exhibitions…
If he was really any good he would be in the Triple Gold club…
by BobbyOrrsBastard on Oct 19, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Text from Bergy to Jumbo Joe this past summer: “Le suck it.”
by MattS on Oct 19, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
No rings and no points as of yet this season.
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by Dave Carignan on Oct 19, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Does this imply Peverley is a potential healthy scratch?
I may be reading too much in to it, but the “Peverley & Caron” part made me think that Caron is subbing in / out with Peverley. That seems pretty odd to me and one of the things I question. The other is I don’t like is, among the top 3 lines, the most offensively talented center (Krejci) has the least offensively talented wings (Pouliot + Peverley).
I don’t think so. I think it’s a Pouliot-or-Caron type of deal, but as far as I’m concerned, Pouliot has more than earned his spot so far. What a pleasant surprise from big Benny P.
Kick his ass, Seabass!
by phonymahoney on Oct 19, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Not happening
no way is Horton playing with Berg and March, unless those two are going to strap 20lb weights to their ankles. Luc-Krejci-Horton and March-Berg-Pev still make the most sense. No idea where Seguin will wind up, but his fear of corners doesn’t help.
Seguin
should be on the wing with Bergy and Marshmont. Those two will muck and Segs just needs to get open. He is the best pure shooter on the team and the lines speed will drive opponents nuts.
Move Lucic down to the third line so the first line (when Krejci comes back) is Krejci centering Horton and Peverly.
Agreed. Seguin should defiantly play with those two. A lot of speed and galant on the line.
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by Dave Carignan on Oct 19, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Shouldn’t we wait for Krejci to get back in action (as in game action) before we start moving the lines around? Imo he makes that first line work
For Horton!
You would think so. He is there best offensive player.
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by Dave Carignan on Oct 19, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
it’s becoming increasingly apparent that when he’s absent this team has difficulty producing. I imagine Chia’s already all over contract talks to lock him up early before that becomes more glaring
I sure hope so. They should give him at least a five year extension. Imagine the stats he could put up with someone like Zack Parise or Rick Nash playing alongside him.
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by Dave Carignan on Oct 19, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Claude has one of these no lie

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by Arenacale on Oct 19, 2011 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Shake up...
I like that CJ is juggling the lines a bit as they have too many stretches where they just seem to be uninterested in competing. They have had numerous great scoring chances but just have not been able to put the puck in the net. I am not too worried right now. If this last another 7-10 games then I will be very concerned. The one thing I have noticed is that other teams so far are very wary of starting a physical fighting game with the Bruins. They understand that the fighting gets the crowd rocking and generally wakes up the boys. If I was doing the shakeup this is what I would like to see:
Seguin – Krejci – Horton
Marchand – Bergeron – Pouliot
Lucic – Peverley – Kelly
Paille – Campbell – Caron & Thornton
Obviously means nothing til Krejci comes back but lets give Sega the ice with Krejci and Horton and see what happens.
I think Pouliot has played extremely well this year so far and deserves a bit more ice. I hate to say it but he has been the player with the most compete level so far in every shift I see him out there. He has been making things happen so lets give him a chance.
Lucic playing with Pevs and Kelly is more to get Lucic back to playing his grind game in the corners. I think having him and Horton together seems to be taking away from adding a bit of grit to another line.
Our 4th line, and as much as I love Thornton and how great a team guy he is he just is not going to score 10+ goals every year. Give Caron a chance to get his feet under him and playing a grind it out along the boards game where he excels. Put him in a setting he is comfortable with and see where it goes from there.
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I think Pouliot has played extremely well this year so far and deserves a bit more ice. I hate to say it but he has been the player with the most compete level so far in every shift I see him out there. He has been making things happen so lets give him a chance.
I couldn’t agree more with this. Sure, he hasn’t been able to put the puck in the net, but it seems like he’s been creating a hell of a lot of chances, and he’s really been busting his ass, IMO.
I’d love to see what happens with Krejci and Seguin together, despite Seguin looking extremely comfortable and generating a lot of offense/offensive chances at center.
As far as Caron goes, it seems like a lot of people are writing him off already… the whole team has had a bad stretch here, and that really can’t be helping any prospects that are along for the ride. I’m all for giving him a chance on whatever line works.
Looch is someone I think would benefit from skating with Kelly and Pevs, as much as I wouldn’t want to break up Bergie/Marshmont/Pevs, Pouliot deserves a chance, and Looch may wake up playing with a guy like Peverley… here’s hoping.
Kick his ass, Seabass!
by phonymahoney on Oct 20, 2011 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions
he’s not the most nimble guy and he doesn’t have the quickest hands, but Pouliot deserves a spot on the 3rd line. That game where had like 6 hits was pretty awesome. totally agree with everything you said re: luc kelly pev berg march. Seguin completely avoids contact, which has to change. He floats around on d waiting for a breakout pass and he won’t chase the dump. However, there’s nobody I’d rather have with the puck in open ice. so, what do you do with him other than play him big minutes on pp?




















