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This Week In Bruins History: Shipping Out Jumbo Joe

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On November 30, 2005 one of the biggest trades in Boston Bruins history went down. Joe Thornton had just signed a three year $20 million contract, but not long after re-signing his career as a Bruins would be cut short. The Bruins were struggling to climb up the standings and general manager Mike O'Connell decided it was time to make a drastic changes. O'Connell pulled the trigger on one of the most questionable and mystifying trades of not on Bruins history but league history as well by trading their super star away to the west coast.

Star-divide

Joe Thornton packed his bags and flew to his new home in San Jose. The Bruins got Brad Stuart, Wayne Primeau and Marco Sturm in return for Thornton. O'Connell decided he wanted to build the team around rising star Patrice Bergeron instead of already proven superstar Thornton. The only player that the Bruins received that stuck around for a significant amount of time was Sturm.

The Thornton trade at the time seemed like one of the top worst time trades of all time and it may still be. It is unknown if Jumbo Joe would have brought the Bruins to the promise land if he was never traded. However since the Bruins sent him packing, Thornton has had success, but doesn't have a cup on his resume. To whatever extent of whether or not O'Connell was crazy or not for trading Thornton away, the Bruins not long after raised their sixth banner into the rafters without the need for Joe Thornton's services.

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and then two years later we got Ference and Kobesaw for Stuart and Primeau
was pissed at the time for trading joe away but i say it worked out in the long run

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by Losted125 on Dec 1, 2011 10:05 AM EST reply actions  

I liked Primeau. He played a Bruins kind of game. Lots of heart.

Kick his ass, Seabass!

by phonymahoney on Dec 1, 2011 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

though it worked out in the end, that does remain one of the worst trades in hockey history. it breaks the golden rule, if you trade the best player in the deal, you lose.

by theDbaker on Dec 1, 2011 10:06 AM EST reply actions  

wait a minute

you posted this today on purpose. If Thornton was traded just after signing a three year deal that means… WE’RE STILL GETTING BOBBY RYAN!!!!&!^!!

by TomServo42 on Dec 1, 2011 10:20 AM EST reply actions  

Bobby Ryan jokes are so last month

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Dec 1, 2011 10:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Could the Thornton trade have been #BlakeWheelersFault?

by ArthorBear on Dec 1, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Dec 1, 2011 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Bahahahahahaha

or…. Yandle?

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by phonymahoney on Dec 1, 2011 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

YandleTradeRumors#

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by Losted125 on Dec 1, 2011 10:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Keep those Yandle trade rumors coming!

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by Dave Carignan on Dec 1, 2011 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I had drifted from the B’s at the time Thornton was traded, so I really have no emotional attachment to it, except that when I heard about it I did think it was odd because he was their big superstar. And I think that’s how the trade is going to be remembered going forward. The timing of it, just after the lockout, when the Sox and Pats were dominating local headlines and most people had left hockey, is going to make it an odd footnote in an era when the Bruins were at their most nondescript and generic.

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by Arenacale on Dec 1, 2011 10:34 AM EST reply actions  

I never really felt like Thornton had a ton of heart

I always knew he was good, but… meh. I didn’t love him. I remember not being thrilled with the trade, but also being satisfied with them brinigng in new blood.

The trade I’ve always been angry about? Juneau for Iafrate.

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by phonymahoney on Dec 1, 2011 10:37 AM EST up reply actions  

not to correct you, but....

Mark Stuart was not a part of this trade. We got Brad Stuart.

(we drafted mark 21st overall in the infamous 03 draft)

by delta on Dec 1, 2011 10:49 AM EST reply actions  

“we” meaning the Bruins.

my apologies for the brief delusions of grandeur that i somehow am part of the Bruins organization =P

by delta on Dec 1, 2011 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

just say we

nobody actually thinks you work for the Bruins and it’s easier to say.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Dec 1, 2011 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

uhh clealry i am a GM come on I make deals like a BOSS all day on nhl 12

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by Losted125 on Dec 1, 2011 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Ah yes of course brad Stuart. I was much brains when I wrote this late at night.

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by Dave Carignan on Dec 1, 2011 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

I think it was the right move to trade Joe. Thing was, he should have been traded in the offseason and we should have gotten more for him. It was a classic panic trade.

Say what you want about Joe not winning a Cup, but he’s a big, big reason why the Sharks franchise has a big and passionate fanbase.

by Satan81 on Dec 1, 2011 12:56 PM EST reply actions  

Without a doubt the reason the Sharks have been successful is because of Thornton. He is an excellent player and the face of their franchise.

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by Dave Carignan on Dec 1, 2011 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Kinda reminds me of how Drew Bledsoe helped build the fanbase of the Patriots and was the face of the franchise for a good long while.

by Satan81 on Dec 1, 2011 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

We have, in fact, discussed this!

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by phonymahoney on Dec 2, 2011 8:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Speaking of the return for Thornton

Sturm is playing one of his many former teams tonight. Per The Royal Half:

by TomServo42 on Dec 1, 2011 10:32 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

hahahha…not nice.

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by Dave Carignan on Dec 1, 2011 10:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Not cool…Sturmie played his heart out for us.

by Satan81 on Dec 1, 2011 11:15 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s why The Royal Half made that and not a Bruins blog

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Dec 2, 2011 8:35 AM EST up reply actions  

They’re hating on Anson Carter, too…Kings fans, I’ll tell ya.

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by Arenacale on Dec 2, 2011 8:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Really? There is that much fondness for Anson Carter in Boston?!? Bruins fans, I’ll tell ya.

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by The Royal Half on Dec 2, 2011 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I just figure an Anson Carter bear head jersey would be the most obscure thing I could wear.

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by Arenacale on Dec 2, 2011 8:51 PM EST up reply actions  

terribly mean to sturmface, but way awesome, too.

Kick his ass, Seabass!

by phonymahoney on Dec 2, 2011 8:50 AM EST up reply actions  

This trade made me stop watching hockey for a while. I didn’t begin watching religiously again until early in the 07-08 season.

Not even because I’d knew they’d lose, but the fallout from it… really? You didn’t shop him around? This would be the equivalent of the Penguins trading Malkin to the Wild for Heatley and an equipment manager without contacting anyone else.

I can't seriously be asked to summarize my sports fandom in a short blurb for all to see, can I?

by Johnny Appleseed on Dec 2, 2011 1:37 AM EST reply actions  

From the Mike O'Connell interview on Felger & Mazz, right after the Bruins won the Cup.

"We made a decision. We thought after watching [Joe Thornton] play and dealing with him on ice/off ice, seeing the kind of character he has… We made a decision. We didn’t think he’d bring us to the championship. I got an e-mail from Jeff Gorton, my assistant General Manager the other day. He said "Mike, I remember the day you came in and said ‘we gotta trade Joe. We gotta build this team around Bergeron’. And I did.

Knowing Bergeron and knowing some of the things he did on and off the ice, the way he practiced with his teammates, the way he interacted, his seriousness… He was the type of player that we thought was gonna bring us there. Joe has character, but we didn’t feel he had enough character to bring us to the championship and we felt Bergeron did."

Hearing all of this out loud blew my mind. Great interview.

by androxin on Dec 2, 2011 9:55 AM EST reply actions  

And who scored the cup-winning goal, hmmmmmm???

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Dec 2, 2011 9:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Mike O’Connell: Builder

by TomServo42 on Dec 2, 2011 9:59 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s crazy to think that Bergeron was only 20 years old at the time and only playing in his second NHL season when Thornton was traded… O’Connell had that much confidence in him, and it paid off.

by androxin on Dec 2, 2011 10:06 AM EST up reply actions  

…when they signed Chara and Thomas came back from Europe

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Dec 2, 2011 10:16 AM EST up reply actions  

I mean it paid off in the way that he was right about Bergeron.

Believe me I’m not one of those people that contributes any of our current success to Mike O’Connell.

by androxin on Dec 2, 2011 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s funny looking back now that O’Connell was the only one who knew what he was doing at the time. The building the team around Bergeron comment proves it in itself because of Tennessee Bergeron has become.

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by Dave Carignan on Dec 2, 2011 10:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Stupid spell check on my phone should say leader and not tennesee

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by Dave Carignan on Dec 2, 2011 10:17 AM EST up reply actions  

TENNESSEE BERGERON

this has potential

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by sarahconnors on Dec 2, 2011 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

reminds me of

I’d have photoshopped BErgy’s face in, but I’m at the dumbstupid office.

Kick his ass, Seabass!

by phonymahoney on Dec 2, 2011 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

agreed

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Dec 2, 2011 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Tennessee Bergeron

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Dec 2, 2011 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

needs a cowboy hat

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Dec 2, 2011 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I think you need to use the one on his Movember page where he’s making the awesome/goofy face.

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by phonymahoney on Dec 2, 2011 1:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

go for it
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Dec 2, 2011 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Egg freckles?

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by Arenacale on Dec 2, 2011 10:33 AM EST up reply actions  

please continue

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Dec 2, 2011 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I loved that interview.

I have loved Bergeron since the first few games of his rookie season. I always saw something. I’m not gonna be one of those assholes who says things like, “I predicted that he’d be great,” but I did always think he had something… and I’ve said on here hundreds of times that while Joe Thornton was good, I was never sold on him.

Kick his ass, Seabass!

by phonymahoney on Dec 2, 2011 10:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Sharks fan here and I love Jumbo...

obviously your team got to the cup first so the trade worked out for your team. Anyway I did this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj5z3HMwOFA to celebrate the 6th anniversary of the trade that brought Jumbo to the Sharks. I still believe the Sharks will win the Stanley Cup and Joe will lead us to it.
Congrats to Bruins fans for your team winning the cup this year, I was rooting for the Bruins and I even did a Stanley Cup “History Will Be Made” video for Tim Thomas http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWFczWE9yTI so, for those Bruins fans that want to make comments about how the Sharks will never win the cup, just keep in mind that many of us rooted for your team during the SC Finals.

by mao2meow on Dec 2, 2011 3:03 PM EST reply actions  

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