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I should start by saying that no one (outside of the angry masses at HFBoards) has killed the Zach Hamill pick more than I have in the past. The Bruins had the 8th pick in the 2007 Draft and took TSN's 16th rated player. Hindsight is always 20/20 with draft picks, but a quick look at the players rated ahead of him that were still on the board (namely Ryan McDonagh and Kevin Shattenkirk) at a position of need, and it's safe to say that pick was an opportunity that went by the boards.

That being said, last night represented an interesting first in Zach Hamill's NHL career. Erik Cole's goal late in the 3rd period, was the first goal that an opposing team had scored while Hamill was on the ice in a Bruins uniform. Which also means last night was the first time in 10 games that Hamill was a minus player. That's not bad for a player whose time in Providence has been mostly underwhelming.

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Hamill is going to be an interesting player to watch for the Bruins leading up the trade deadline this year. The Bruins boast an extremely deep forward unit 1-12. Where the biggest question mark resided was who could step up if one of the starting forwards went down to injury. At this point in the season, it looks like Hamill is going to be that guy. Unlike Jordan Caron, Hamill has demonstrated that he can play both Center and Wing competently at the NHL, and the fact that he appears to have seamlessly fit in on the 3rd and the 4th line makes him an ideal candidate to serve as the 13th forward while Caron gets some much needed playing time in Providence. We'll definitely need to see more of Hamill's play at the NHL level to come to any concrete conclusions about his value. His Relative Corsi is in the middle of the pack for Bruins forwards through 6 games, but his Corsi Relative to the Quality of Competiion is dead last (which isn't surprising given the level of ability of the guys ahead of him), that also could be partially due to the fact that only Gregory Campbell has a lower percentage of offensive zone starts, and no Bruin forward has a higher percentage of offensive zone finishes.

For a player who could have been claimed by any NHL team on waivers earlier in the season, the fact that Zach Hamill is finally providing the Bruins with some value is a definite bonus, and the potential exists that he could turn his career around from an all out draft bust and one of the few black marks in Peter Chiarelli's personnel record.

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I hope the team opts to keep him in Boston as the 13th forward. Caron while not terrible just hasn’t impressed me much-Hamill seemed more driven to make everything possible of his NHL opportunities.

I suspect before the deadline one of them will be part of a trade package to hopefully upgrade the defense.

by TCL40 on Dec 20, 2011 10:55 AM EST reply actions  

I think if you were going to trade one/keep one, you’d trade Caron and keep Hamill. Which isn’t necessarily to say that long term Hamill will have more value, but more that Caron could probably bring back more in terms of a trade than Hamill (who went unclaimed prior to this 6 game stretch) relative to their value to the team right now.

I think Caron has done all right for a 21 year old forward drafted towards the end of the first round, but I think he could definitely use the playing time he’d get in Providence at this point.

by Michael Taylor on Dec 20, 2011 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

While I agree that Caron likely has greater trade value, it is worth noting that he also has one year left under contract while Hamill is an RFA at seasons end. That should have an impact on their trade considerations.

by BobbyOrrsBastard on Dec 20, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Sure, that’s also a consideration. It’s also possible they trade neither, opting to trade draft picks or other prospects.

That wasn’t to say that under no circumstance would I trade Hamil and definitely would trade Caron. I’m also (sadly) not privy to the trade discussions that Chiarelli has.

The place that I think they need the upgrade the most (a top 3 defenseman), is going to be a difficult trade to make in my mind. The Bruins bottom 4 defensemen are all pretty good. But to go from pretty good to really good using one of those pieces is still a significant trade jump. Ference is less valuable to the other 29 teams than he is to Boston. Boychuk is a UFA himself, McQuaid is our 6, and PMD might be the most costly position in hockey to upgrade at the deadline.

by Michael Taylor on Dec 20, 2011 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Boston has some needs, but a puck mover isn’t among them. They need a rock solid stay at home guy more than a puck mover. There’s plenty of offensive skill on the blue line; what they need is someone not named “Zdeno Chara” who can shut down the bad guys. If they could upgrade from Seidenberg or Boychuk to a guy like Robyn Regehr (not that Regehr is available, just that he’s the kind of guy I’d want), that would be huge.

by Phunwin on Dec 20, 2011 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh totally agree, was just running through the list of non Chara-Seidenberg defensemen. I wouldn’t attempt to upgrade on Corvo at all. Upgrading Boychuk to a Regehr type is absolutely the move I think they’ll make.

by Michael Taylor on Dec 20, 2011 9:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, okay, gotcha.

There’s another way to look at it: offensively gifted defensemen are always coveted at the deadline, and the Bruins have something of a surplus there. It might not be hard to turn one of them (Boychuk and Corvo both have very cap-friendly contracts, for instance) into a Regehr type. Boychuk isn’t thought of as a puck mover, but he is offensively valuable, with his booming slapshot and average (or slightly above average) mobility. Really, what’s the difference between him and, say, Marc-Andre Bergeron, other than probably 5 inches of height and 50 pounds?

by Phunwin on Dec 21, 2011 8:13 AM EST up reply actions  

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separated at birth?

Kick his ass, Seabass!

by phonymahoney on Dec 20, 2011 1:28 PM EST reply actions  

neither picture shows up

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Dec 20, 2011 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Hmm, they’re both showing up for me.

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by phonymahoney on Dec 20, 2011 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

yes there is a reason we call him sid the sloth, ahaha.

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by sarahconnors on Dec 20, 2011 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

yep! just entertaining myself on my lunchbreak; just not much to read today.

Kick his ass, Seabass!

by phonymahoney on Dec 20, 2011 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I've got a noon number for ya

9 – the Bruins have a 9 point lead on the Northeast Division

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Dec 20, 2011 2:45 PM EST reply actions  

Despite having played fewer games than 3 of their 4 division rivals (tied with Buffalo)

by BobbyOrrsBastard on Dec 20, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

First, great article.

Second, I disagree with your assessment that Hamill has proven himself to play center and wing. He hasn’t played enough wing at the pro level to demonstrate lasting proficiency, nor would I really expect him to. His ceiling, as I see it, is a homeless man’s Marc Savard (to use a ready comparison). He’s got playmaking skills, but he’s an average skater at best, and isn’t anywhere near physical enough to be a fixture on a checking line. But his shot isn’t terrible, and on a line with a couple guys who can finish, Hamill could put up some points.

I see him as a potential third line center if Chris Kelly prices himself out of Boston’s price range this season. Rich Peverley can finish a hell of a lot better than your average third liner, and Benoit Pouliot, amazingly, looks like he’s getting it. Putting Caron on the wing instead of Pouliot (who might also price himself out of Boston’s price range) would give that line a bit more grit and defensive ability.

by Phunwin on Dec 20, 2011 8:29 PM EST reply actions  

Not sure what the line is going to look like, but one think I like with Kelly, Peverly and Pouliot is the speed of the line. Caron is slow and seems to slow them down.

I honestly think both Hamill and Caron are bottom 6 guys who fill different roles.

I think if/which/who gets traded probably depends more on what the other team wants or is looking for. I still think one of them is going to be gone by the end of the deadline.

by TCL40 on Dec 21, 2011 5:57 AM EST up reply actions  

I actually don’t think either will be traded. I think the Bruins are happy with the forward corps, especially since Hamill has proven himself useful. If Caron doesn’t get the take the express lane to the NHL, so be it. Remember also that the Bs have been remarkably lucky with injuries the last couple years (save Savard), and having 13 NHL caliber forwards is good insurance.

by Phunwin on Dec 21, 2011 8:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Hamil's contract

First time poster long time reader. Great blog.

Hamil could have been claimed? He’s still on his entry contract I thought he could go up and down without going through waivers. No?

by neelyforpres on Dec 21, 2011 9:46 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

He signed his first contract in 2007, so he was not waiver-exempt.

http://www.capgeek.com/faq/how-do-regular-waivers-work.php

by Phunwin on Dec 21, 2011 10:11 AM EST up reply actions  

That waiver calculator is awesome! Thx

by neelyforpres on Dec 21, 2011 5:10 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Dec 21, 2011 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Probably because no one wants to see Rask traded or thinks its a good idea. The kid is the goalie of the future… we have nothing even close to backup caliber in the system let alone starter.

by BobbyOrrsBastard on Dec 21, 2011 8:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Tell me this a joke. So we trade our future no.1 goalie, our future top pair d-man for a top 3 d-man. Are you sure you’re not a Laffs fan?

by gravitymike on Dec 22, 2011 2:18 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

top-3 goalie in the league Tuukka Rask?

You do know Thomas will retire eventually, right?

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Dec 22, 2011 8:40 AM EST up reply actions  

I think moving Tuukka is a bad idea, unless we can get something absolutely ridiculous back in return. Timmy is indeed Hockey Jesus, but he’s not getting any younger.

Kick his ass, Seabass!

by phonymahoney on Dec 22, 2011 8:59 AM EST up reply actions  

He has been impressive.

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by Eyeofthebeholder on Dec 23, 2011 3:31 PM EST reply actions  

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