NHL Trade Deadline 2011: What's Next For Bruins?
The Chris Kelly acquisition addresses some needs for the Bruins, albeit not the needs that fans are focusing on. Despite their rep as a strong defensive team, the Bruins have been mediocre defensively, and have been consistently bailed out by excellent goaltending. The last few games have shown us what happens when the Tim Thomas/Tuukka Rask tandem has an off night.
The third line bears a fair bit of blame for this. The third line, generally featuring some combination of Blake Wheeler, Tyler Seguin and Michael Ryder, has been awful in their own end. Wheeler is a good defensive player, who can be excellent when the spirit moves him. Seguin is a kid, and thus bad defensively, but at least he will improve. Ryder is hopeless, and there's no point in expecting improvement. But add Chris Kelly to that mix, a very good defensive center, and suddenly, that third line becomes a much better defensive unit. You can live with Ryder's cherry-picking ways as long as he's on the ice with Wheeler and Kelly. Seguin figures to move to the wing, possibly to the fourth line. That's unfortunate, but at this point, development must take a back seat to a playoff run.
The other sore point this addresses is the penalty kill. The penalty kill is 14th in the NHL, after finishing last year 3rd, just 0.4% off the top spot. And it has gotten worse as the season progresses; since the calendar turned to 2011, the Bruins are a dreadful 76% on the penalty kill (54 of 71). Kelly is one of the best penalty killers in the NHL, and should tighten that up.
The Bruins still have some cap room to make a pickup, about $2.5 million, though they would be well advised to keep some of that as a bonus cushion. Another move up front is unlikely, unless it's a 2 for 1 deal where they pick up a 30 goal winger. The Brad Richards talk should be quelled now, even apart from his minor injury. With $51.7 million committed in salary for next season, and 6 centers under contract for 2011-12, it doesn't make sense.
The next move will likely be for Tomas Kaberle, as the Bruins and Maple Leafs are heavily into trade negotiations, and Brian Burke did nothing at all to dispel the notion that Kaberle is the subject of those. Kaberle has indicated that he would be amenable to a move to Boston, though initial reports that he waived his no-trade clause only for the Bruins were later proven inaccurate. The Bruins have been interested in Kaberle for two solid years because they badly need a mobile defenseman who can quarterback the power play. Anyone who watched the recent games against Detroit and San Jose saw what a strong forecheck can do to the Bruins. Anytime there's a pairing involving a combo of Adam McQuaid, Mark Stuart, Johnny Boychuk or Andrew Ference on the blue line, the B's are in jeopardy of getting stuck in their own zone. Add Kaberle to the defense, though, and suddenly, they have two very good puck movers in Kaberle and Steven Kampfer, and two adequate ones, in Zdeno Chara and Dennis Seidenberg. The power play, 17th in the NHL, would get a huge boost from putting Kaberle at the point opposite Chara's booming shot.
Kaberle's $4.25 million salary means that the Bruins couldn't just send draft picks back to Toronto; some salary would have go. Johnny Boychuk or Mark Stuart would almost certainly be part of any trade. A swap of Stuart, Daniel Paille and a high draft pick (either Boston's first, or the second rounder they didn't trade to Ottawa) would probably work.
If the Kaberle negotiations fall through, Peter Chiarelli will still be looking for defense. Ideally, it would be someone with Kaberle's skill set of mobility, passing, power play excellence and competence in their own zone. As you might expect, that's not easy to find, and sacrifices would have to be made. The two names that have most consistently come up are Zach Bogosian, who has mobility and talent to spare, but has yet to figure out playing in his own zone, and Chris Phillips, who is a quality stay-at-home type, but will do nothing at all to help the mediocre power play.
With the cap a tight fit both now and next season, the next move, be it for Kaberle, Phillips, Bogosian or perhaps another defenseman, would probably be Boston's only major move.
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OK, who voted for “I think the defense is just fine the way it is”? I’m assuming it’s a Habs fan who sneaked in here.
You can see what people voted for on their profile page. I’m not sure if you can see it aggregated on the admin side, though.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Feb 16, 2011 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
Kaberle.
1. Provides immediate relief for the defense (and due to his offensive game on the power play). Pairing with Kaberle with Chara on the power play would be a HUGE boost.
2. Should be acquired without giving up the Leafs first rounder, thus giving us another potential “building block” player in the upcoming draft.
Give me Kaberle and whoever we get in the draft over Bogosian (as well as the other options).
I love the idea of a Kaberle/Chara PP tandem. Love it to death. A premium PP quarterback and the hardest slap shot in the NHL.
And there is no way on earth the Leafs are getting that pick back for Kaberle. I mean, maybe if they packaged him with Kadri and Gardiner or something, but I can’t see it.
If they can get Kabs without giving up the Toronto Pick I like it better, Bogosian is best overall though
But I really see that pick being a huge sticking point for Burke. Assuming the Toronto pick has to be in play for any deal, I voted for Zach Bogosian.
Zach is not nearly as much of a help for ‘11 as Kabs, but I would argue the B’s are not 1 player away from a cup run anyway. Kabs makes them better certainly, but not on a level with the elite teams this year I don’t think.
Zach would improve things moderately this year, especially if he’s stepping in for Stuart. ZB also would project to really improve things in ‘12 and could become the cornerstone Defender and heir apparent to Chara in ’13 when he’d be a RFA and Chara likely will not look great.
So decent short term, pretty tremendous long term.
Again though on the flip side, getting Kabs and keeping Toronto’s pick – that’s really, REALLY hard not to like. Though moving Krecji as part of the deal would absolutely kill me – that better be a stupid rumor.
That was a stupid rumor. The guy putting it out there had a fake Darren Dreger twitter account. You may freely ignore it.
Kaberle will not cost that Toronto #1. It’s not happening. I would bet my left nut on this. If that pick goes back to Toronto, it’s because the Leafs are giving up a hell of a lot more than Tomas Kaberle. Boston’s #1? Yeah, maybe that’s in play. I could see Stuart, Paille and the Boston #1 for Kaberle, even though I said Stuart, Paille and a #2. And I’m sure the Leafs have no great desire to have Paille, but rather, he’s necessary to make the cap work.
But what about your right nutter butter?
I did take the Krecji rumor as interspamcrap – but I wanted to say it out loud and get a second opinion all the same.
I could see it as :
Stewie (still like him, but I get it) Wheeler, #2
Stewie, Paille, B’s #1
Also considering the issues a C – I wonder what Zach Hamill’s value could be to Toronto? Stewie, Paille, Hamill, #2?
I could see Toronto being interested in Hamill. They have a dearth of talent at C throughout the organization. I could see them being more interested in Joe Colborne, however. Hamill is smaller and less physical than Burke will be looking for. That does nothing to explain why they wanted Phil Kessel, but never mind. Colborne, though, might tickle their collective fancy.
Why on earth would Brian Burke want Stuart and Paille?
by Milbury Shoe Co. on Feb 16, 2011 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
B's defense
if your looking for a mobile defenseman with great puck control and passing with a great shot……………………. trade for r ellis oof the windsor spitfires
Not huge on Kaberle
but if they can do Stuart+Paille+ First rounder, I can live with it. It’s just the Krejci/Boychuk stuff I don’t like.
And everyone else on that list don’t impress me much.
i agree about krejci, but why not boychuk? you already have a D-man who’s just as good in Adam “Randy” McQuaid (if not, better IMO) and has less of a cap hit.
kaberle > boychuk all day every day
OK, but what about cap hit?
Boychuk for $2 mm and Kaberle for $4.25 mm, and you have to give up more for Kaberle. give up Stuart, fine, because he’s a UFA.
by Marisa Ingemi on Feb 16, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
yeah, i was gonna say (like milbury shoe said) boychuk+wheeler but i’m not sure that would be enough to clear the cap (i don’t have capgeek handy right now)
Pull the Trigger
Management needs to pull the trigger on this deal, but I don’t think it will be as easy as pairing Paille and Stuart with a draft pick. The point to moving Kaberle is to get something in return for a guy who can walk after the season. Trading him for Stuart, who will be an UFA, does not address that need. Paille has more value to the Bruins as a depth guy and penalty killer than he probably does to anyone else in the league, I don’t think he makes sense even as a complimentary piece. Burke wants good, young, NHL ready players who are under contract or in RFA status for next year. An offer of Wheeler, Boychuck, and that second rounder would address this need. Not only would Burke have their rights for next year, but they are both responsible in their own zone, an attribute that the Leaf’s roster does not currently have an abundance of.
by Milbury Shoe Co. on Feb 16, 2011 11:33 AM EST reply actions
I actually think Wheeler, Boychuk and a #2 is more than it would take. The Bruins have some leverage here; Kaberle is willing to go to Boston, but isn’t interested in going anywhere else. True, the Leafs have some leverage as well, in that the Bruins really need a player like Kaberle, but the Bruins can say “screw it, we’ll go get Bryan McCabe instead” (or whoever). The Leafs can’t credibly say that they’ll move Kaberle elsewhere.
If that’s what it took, I’d do it, grudgingly, but I don’t think it will take that much.
Kaberle would fit the bill for the power play
but if you’re looking for someone to help in our own zone, he is just dreadful. Yes, he makes a great first pass, so he can be effective against the dump and chase, but when the team gets bottled up, Kaberle flops around like a fish. That has been his downfall in Toronto for a decade.
All this buttoning and unbuttoning
Per PPP, he’s been a lot better this year
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Feb 16, 2011 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
If you look at his career DGVT numbers, the guy gets a bad rap. He’s consistently posted at least a 4.0 DGVT (and usually quite a bit more) for a poor team. I know DGVT isn’t the be-all, end-all, but it’s useful, and it shows that even if Kaberle isn’t ultra-physical, he’s obviously doing something right in his own end.
He had at least one pretty sweet poke-check last night
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Feb 16, 2011 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
He sure did.
Just for reference sake, he’s got a 3.6 DGVT this year, tied for 31st among defensemen.
That’s higher than Zdeno Chara.
I’m stuck here in TO so I see more Leafs games than I would like to. As I said above, his defensive stats look good because he is good against the rush, and he makes a good first pass, but where he is absolutely awful is understanding his position when the team is setup in his zone. He scrambles like crazy and is often out of position and running towards the guy who ends up putting home the empty netter.
I too have heard the talk that he is better this year, but in this aspect of his game (which is what I would assume we are hoping to improve upon) he is not very good.
But, still a good pick up, and you always have to factor in that peoples flaws are always more evident when they are on an awful team. I thought Chara was awful for some of those years with an offensive minded Ottawa team.
All this buttoning and unbuttoning
So who are the 9 defensemen on the board? That’s what I want to know.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Feb 16, 2011 12:07 PM EST reply actions
We know Kaberle, Bogosian and Phillips are up there. The other 6 are speculation, but I’d guess Ron Hainsey, Pitkanen, McCabe, Eric Brewer, J.M. Liles and Brent Seabrook.
He’s kind of sucked this year
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Feb 16, 2011 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
He’s certainly not the only Blackhawk to backslide from 2009-10.
I mention Seabrook because I have to think they’re keeping an eye on him, given how cap-strapped the Blackhawks are. They have 11 players signed for next year at a total of $43.5M. That leaves about $18M to fill 12 spots, and Seabrook, an RFA, will be seeking a minimum of $4M per year, and probably more. The Bruins have enough young (read: cheap) talent to appeal to the Blackhawks’ budget. Wheeler, Boychuk, Hamill and the Toronto pick? That might appeal to them.
even with a not-so-good year, he’s at 31 points w 14 on the PP, so his +/- is a bit misleading. That’d be a definite yes if he’s avail.
It’s not crazy. They need to do something. If they sign Seabrook for $4M (which is probably low), they’re going to be filling out the other 11 spots mostly with minimum-salary guys. Either they hope like hell they can find a bunch of bargains, or they turn Seabrook into 3 players who can help them this year and next.
Paille, Stuart, Wheeler?
would that work?
by Marisa Ingemi on Feb 16, 2011 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
For Seabrook? That Toronto pick would have to be involved if those were the players on the table. The Hawks would also want Boychuk over Stuart, because Boychuk is signed through next season.
I haven’t read it yet…hold on.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Feb 16, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
So in Summary - WE ARE ALL FOR A DAMN MOVE - MAKE IT HAPPEN PC
Or to put in in Good Morning Vietnam speak:
Since our PC can such a DB,
He better fix the DC, or at least PP..
lest we have another EA and put him on KP
Claudes System
it matters not who we get,when he spends enough time being coached in Claude system he will be like everyone else, playing a zone and looking to clear rebounds from in front of the net,backing down to far all the way to the goalie and then trying to bock the shot.letting their shooters shoot.How about trying to stop the shooter from shooting and let the gaolie block the shot.
For what it’s worth, the Hurricanes are moving Ian White. Apparently a trade is pending. I assume that’s not a guy the Bruins would be in on, but he’s young and has been solid in his own zone.
I really like the way you guys play. from what I’ve seen this team could play great playoff hockey and turn some heads. great character. always room for improvement though.
Bogosian would be nice. he’s hit a major bump in atlanta and could probably use a change of scenery. but given his age, what you’d have to give up, and the need for short term help its probably unrealistic.
by icelikevelvet on Feb 16, 2011 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
Let's just play along. (Without looking at the cap)
To make us a potential Stanley cup contender (both trades would need to happen):
Goal scorer: Zach Parise for Toronto’s first round pick and Blake Wheeler (Devils need young talent because they are already over the cap limit and probably can’t afford to sign Parise to a long term contract)
Puck moving defenseman: Thomas Kaberle for Bruins first round pick, Caron/Hammill/any other young talent and Boychuk. Toronto can use all the young help that they can get…..)
Thoughts?
Zach would be awesome but I don't seem him being nearly this easy to get
I don’t think Zach would ever come that cheap:
- Toronto’s 1
- Wheeler
- Marchand, maybe Hamill
- Future #1
I think something like that is more line for him.
Kabs part looks good.
PS – 50 lbs of 50’s = around $22,500 -
(Without looking at the cap)
(Without reading your post because it will inevitably be a pipe dream)
Thoughts?We should get Crosby pre-concussion too
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Feb 16, 2011 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, well, yeah sometimes
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Feb 16, 2011 3:55 PM EST up reply actions

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