Bruins acquire Tomas Kaberle from Toronto
by Stanley Cup of Chowder on Feb 18, 2011 2:00 PM EST
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PrintAfter much speculation, Peter Chiarelli and Brian Burke have pulled the trigger on a trade involving Tomas Kaberle. The Bruins sent forward prospect Joe Colborne, Boston's 1st round pick in the 2011 NHL Entry Draft and a conditional second round pick in 2012. According to Bob McKenzie of TSN, the Bruins would receive the conditional pick if Kaberle resigns with the team or the Bruins reach the Stanley Cup Finals. The deal is pending an official trade call with the NHL, but many media outlets are reporting the deal done.
Kaberle has recorded 38 points (3-35-38) in 58 games this year. The soon to be 33-year-old defenseman has been on the Bruins radar for quite sometime now. You maybe remember that he was rumored to be coming to Boston in the Phil Kessel deal two summers ago. Hopefully, Kaberle can be the puck-moving defenseman this team so desperately needs.
UPDATE 2:30 PM ET: James Mirtle of The Globe & Mail is reporting that the deal is now official.
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Leafs fan here...
I am extremely sad to see Kaberle go, he is something like 2nd in points for Leafs D men in history. He is capable of making passes that very few in the game are, you will definitely be very happy with him.
I will always have a soft spot in my heart for Kabby, I wish him, and you guys the best. As much as I might dislike the Bruins, I would love to see Kabby win a cup. He deserves it.
seriously
i know people say this is a weak draft year but teams seem to unloading their first rounders.
by icelikevelvet on Feb 18, 2011 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
So, too expensive? A steal? Fair trade?
Colborne is certainly behind some of the other prospects we have in Providence right now. I see him play often enough at the Dunk. Potential? Sure, but they do seem to be starting to make the moves to make an actual push.
Our first rounder? Well, you never like to see those go, but we’re keeping Toronto’s now (and now perhaps we weaken that team, keeping the pick higher). So maybe we get another high selection, or another deal is coming.
Too bad on the cost cutting side to Atlanta, but no one will miss Wheeler. Stuart? Free agency over the horizon….maybe you try to get some extra room. Too bad, as I liked him, but that’s the business.
Guess I’ll see how Boris Valabik does down at the Dunk now. Peter loves him some Centers. Peverley, eh?
Seems Peter likes him some seasoned Centers.
His rookie season was awsome, but as of right now Wheeler wasn’t really doin much of anything in Boston. I don’t know much about peverley, but he seems to be a definite improvement over blake wheeler. Stuart was a great guy and a solid player, but the B’s didnt really need him anymore, so im fine with that.
The main thing I’m worried about is Kaberle NOT signing with Boston after this season.
What about Peverley? Any good?
by Marisa Ingemi on Feb 18, 2011 2:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
So Toronto and Boston can be review as this:
Boston gets:
Kaberle
Sequin
Jordan Knight
1st this year
Toronto gets:
Kessel
Colbrune
1st this year
conditional 2nd next year
Nice!
Jared Knight I thought.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Feb 18, 2011 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
I didn't know
NKOTB was represent’n in our system.
Jordan Knight:
by TomServo42 on Feb 18, 2011 4:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Now don't get me wrong....we certainly improved the team with the deal.
Chia had the perfect chance to hardball Burke and pay exactly what we wanted, but he gave in and Toronto returned the favor on fleecing us in a trade.
You a fly on the wall during discussions?
You can’t just fleece someone. Burke seemed willing to simply wait out the year as Toronto can’t get much better. He stated he wouldn’t do big moves unless the team could get better.
As such, a 2nd roudner or such wouldn’t probably get it done.
Whereas, Bruins KNOW they need someone to put them over the top.
They have many prospects, and Colborne is sort of stagnant down in Providence, he was the guy to move.
I’m not sure I understand how PC was fleeced. Is he upset PC gave up a first or a Prospect. I’d guess there was more than just the Bruins interested in this guy and PC wanted him. I like the move and hope he can extend him!
by SkateHitShoot on Feb 18, 2011 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
You don't need to be a fly on the wall
The meeting reported multiple times that Kaberle would only waive for the Bruins and he said he wasn’t re-signing in Toronto.
So they at that point they either trade him for what Boston wants or they keep him and let him walk at the end of the year. Pretty sure that is directly in the drivers seat there.
I have no problem give up Colborne, I also wouldn’t have minded Colborne and the 1st if he was signed, but Colborne and 1 st PLUS a 2nd if we want to extend him? We are talking about a 34 year old defensemen who is going to demand $5+ million this offseason.
It is a terrible overpayment for a good player that helps the team.
They are making a push
There is a sense of urgency now, no question.
Colborne is dead in the water in Providence. You still have Toronto’s pick. Your own pick is going to be low first round. You low ball Burke, he’s not going to do anything, and the Bruins really need/want Kaberle. They aren’t in complete control as you say. Toronto does not care one way or another, so they can just say, “no.”
They are taking a gamble with their own pick, fine, we have a great deal of young talent in Providence and guys who have broken to the big team.
Time for aggressive trades.
See I would trade every non-roster asset we have for a cup.
But, Horton and Krejci need to massively step up to the plate to do that and I don’t know if they will…..
I am glad they are going to go for it once, but just am not sure Kaberle is enough to put them over the top. They certainly are competitive with Philly now.
I guess it comes down to results, if the team fails in the 1st and 2nd round again, then it stays as a massive overpayment for a guy who didn’t help us over the top. If we finaly break through and get to the cup then it is worth it.
We will see. Right now, I’m clearly not sure it is worth it.
clearly not sure? sounds kind of redundant.
this isn’t the first time i’ve completely disagreed with a BC fan and i’m sure it won’t be the last. my question is why WOULDN’T you trade Colborne? look at our depth chart at center and you’ll start to understand why PC would make this deal.
I usually think you’re wrong. I think you’re wrong here too…but much less wrong than usual.
I think Boston gave up a lot. And I’m not sure they had to give up that much. If they wanted to take it right down to 2/28, maybe Brian Burke would have blinked and said “fine, I’ll take Colborne and your #1, no conditional pick.” But is it worth that? Is it worth taking it down that long, and giving Burke time to work on Kaberle and say “you know, Montreal is pretty nice, too.” Or wincing every time Vancouver loses another defenseman and wondering if they might get into it.
“I’ll only take a trade to X” is great…but it can change. Just ask the Knicks about that one.
The Bruins had been in on Kaberle for two years now. Obviously, Burke was willing to wait. Maybe they had the upper hand for now, but that could change. What’s more, maybe Boston had the upper hand in that Kaberle wanted to go there, but Toronto had some leverage in that Boston has designs on a Stanley Cup this year.
Acquiring All-Star talent at the deadline is always, always expensive. When you have a shot at the cup, you have to make these kind of deals. You still have a 1st round pick, you still have several good offensive prospects. The Bruins were able to add an excellent piece for the present without mortgaging the future.
Negative. I am a meat popsicle.
Yay we also traded Wheeler. I am happy.
by Marisa Ingemi on Feb 18, 2011 2:44 PM EST via mobile reply actions
All the players I disliked are gone. Wheeler, Wideman. Now just about Ference…
by Marisa Ingemi on Feb 18, 2011 2:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He’s getting on a plane to Ottawa right now. If he can make it he’s playing.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Feb 18, 2011 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
Kaberle is expected to join the Bruins in Ottawa tonight (Friday, February 18) and be available for tonight’s game against the Senators.
From B’s website official release
http://bruins.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=553271&navid=DL|BOS|home
by SkateHitShoot on Feb 18, 2011 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
Good trade if all he does is help the power play. Sure hope it doesn’t turn out like Gonchar. Who I thought was miserable in Boston.
Yeah, wasn’t that the trade deadline where they got Gonchar and Nylander, and we all thought “holy shit, this is the year!”…and they ended up falling flat on their collective face against Les Glorieux?
Acquired in 03-04 season so….yes.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Feb 19, 2011 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
oh..and I like Peverly, he has put up solid numbers in Atlanta. I had him on my Fantasy team and he is quite capable of putting the puck in the net. Now about that plus/minus….
The thing about the +/- is he played for ATL. They are an all systems go type team meaning they are pushing offensively. This leads to giving up a lot of goals against. I think putting Peverly is this defensive Bruins system his +/- won’t be nearly as bad. P.S. Not bad-mouthing the ATL system it’s just a consequence of their exciting style of play.
by Dangles-McDonnybrook on Feb 18, 2011 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
Works for me
I always liked Wheeler but he seems to be one of those guys who just isn’t going to live up to his potential. Maybe the change of scenery will help him blossom, but that wasn’t going to happen with the Bruins so I think the swap for Peverly is a good one, probably for both teams. Ditto for Stuart/ Valabik.
The Kaberle deal will get lots of scrutiny and comparisons to the Kessel trade. But these are two completely different things. PK was dumped for draft picks that keep the Bruins development healthy with a look toward the future. Today’s trade offers the B’s immediate improvement in areas they desperately needed now. Whether it is/will be a good value is certainly dependent on if they can sign Kaberle this summer, but maybe he’ll like the idea of winning enough to be reasonable in his demands. Regardless, I think these two moves make the team better. Will they be good enough to take them on a run to the cup? Only time will tell.
by Professor Wagstaff on Feb 18, 2011 3:29 PM EST reply actions
But do we care if he gets better?
I don’t. Actually, I suppose we’d all be happiest if he didn’t. That would eliminate any second guessing on the deal.
by Professor Wagstaff on Feb 18, 2011 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
I hope he kills it.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Feb 18, 2011 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
swing and a miss
you guys in boston are going to love watching the puck go inot your zone and kabs skating back looking over his shoulder and then bail. He’s a good player but I’ve watched almost every game he’s ever played. one of the most over rated players ever. put money on it.
Lies
Kaberle is amazing. Fact.
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 20, 2011 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
Excellent point by Scott Cullen:
One interesting facet of this deal is the picks involved. Boston appears to have paid a healthy premium to acquire Kaberle, but by taking him away from the Leafs, they effectively insure the value of the 2011 first-round pick of Toronto’s that the Bruins already own (from the Phil Kessel trade), so maybe it’s worth paying the premium, in hopes that this year’s pick is another Top Five selection.
not so fast
check out the leafs record the last three years with thomas in the line-up and when he isn’t.
not much difference.
Check out his on ice goal differential vs his off ice goal differential. I think Schenn was the only other Leaf D with a positive on ice goal differential. Toronto gave up a lot more goals without Kaberle on the ice, and scored a lot fewer. Even if you discount PP time and zone starts, he and Schenn were head and shoulders above the rest of that D.
by Phunwin on Feb 19, 2011 9:39 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Tomas
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Feb 19, 2011 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
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