Don Cherry responds to Zdeno Chara's hit on Max Pacioretty during Saturday night's edition of...

Don Cherry responds to Zdeno Chara's hit on Max Pacioretty during Saturday night's edition of Coach's Corner.

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by 13_Legion on Mar 13, 2011 1:14 PM EDT reply actions

So respectful he is. Cherry is a national embarrassment.

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by Andrew Berkshire on Mar 13, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions

No, the fact that the Canadian government is wasting time and money to investigate this to appease pathetic Habs fans is a national embarrassment.

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by Stanley Cup of Chowder on Mar 13, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions

I concur with that as well, although it’s a complete red herring and takes nothing away from what I’ve said. You also need to calm down. Everything you say is about “pathetic” Habs fans etc. Stop generalizing all as the idiots. I haven’t seen many Habs fans saying all Bruins fans are drunken, irish retards dragging their knuckles on the ground cheering on a near death. Probably because those people are in the excessive minority. However I have seen on this blog, over and over again a constant appeal to ignorance when it comes to Quebec, constant racial slurs, and a lot of generalizing. You’ve also called Robert L an embarrassment, which is an absolute fucking joke. Robert is a pretty damn celebrated writer in the blogging community, and not just among Habs fans. Calling a fan base biased and stupid while engaging in immature personal attacks is a little bit, how would you put it? Pathetic. I suppose I’ll be banned now for calling you out on your BS.

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by Andrew Berkshire on Mar 15, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions

He never implied all Habs fans are pathetic, he implied that those who called the police are pathetic. Reading comprehension, it’s important, stay in school kids.

by Circler on Mar 15, 2011 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions

Oh really? Is that what it was?

What I cannot relate to is the lack of logic by Montreal fans to pick up a telephone and call an emergency hotline for something that happened in an NHL game. Is this a normal thing up there? Do the cops get inundated with calls every time an opponent challenges a Hab to fight?

My mistake, I didn’t catch the subtle clarification that it wasn’t painting all Habs fans with the exact same brush. Probably because there isn’t one.

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by Andrew Berkshire on Mar 16, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions

I questioned if this was a normal practice? I did not make a definite statement. An emergency police hotline received many calls from Habs fans about something that happened in a hockey game. That is fact not opinion. That is pathetic and you agree with me about that. Not all Habs fans are pathetic, however many of them are (for instance the ones that called the cops on Chara and the ones that can only see things through Bleu, Blanc, et Rouge tinted lenses).

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by Stanley Cup of Chowder on Mar 16, 2011 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions

I agree that it is in fact pathetic to call the cops for that, you’re right. However I don’t agree with the notion that “many of them” are pathetic more than any other fanbase, there’s just more of them around in total. The same proportion of fans for every fanbase are a bunch of idiots. This is what I’m taking exception to.

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by Andrew Berkshire on Mar 16, 2011 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions

Agree to disagree then.

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by Stanley Cup of Chowder on Mar 16, 2011 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions

I would like you to point me to these “constant racial slurs”. You have not seen a racial slur come from me and I don’t think I have kept any comments up from any readers that have slurs. I have stressed that hate speech is not welcome here. Please do not accuse me of that. Please point me to a racial slur on this site and I will take it down. That is not the type of site I want to run.

I probably was out of line calling Robert “a joke”. I do think that he is delusional and writes for the sake of sensationalism, though.

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by Stanley Cup of Chowder on Mar 15, 2011 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions

To be clear, did not meant to accuse YOU of racial slurs. But I’ve seen many instances of calling any Montreal fan a frog. Hopefully you’ve deleted them, if you have I commend you. Lots of SCOC regulars did the same thing on EOTP in the last week. However most were very good, as I was trying to imply.

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by Andrew Berkshire on Mar 16, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions

I have never seen anyone refer to anyone as a “frog” on here. You must have us confused with some other site. Either that or delusion is not an isolated malady over at Eyes on The Prize. I would not tolerate that sort of hate speech on here.

For the record, that term would be an ethnic slur not a racial slur. French is not a race.

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by Stanley Cup of Chowder on Mar 16, 2011 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions

I certainly don’t have this site confused, this is the only Bruins site I’ve bothered to comment on because the commentariat is incredibly rational when compared to the likes of NESN.

As for hate speech, would you call labeling someone a Nazi as hate speech? The user ATHAPAP does this on SCOC frequently to Habs fans. I’m not sure if you’ve deleted his comments or not because I haven’t checked back.

As for racial slur vs ethnic slur, for the record black or Asian or Indian aren’t races either. They’re also ethnicities. So if you want to get technical, the term racial slur shouldn’t really exist when speaking of humans. Also French wouldn’t be an ethnicity as they fall into Caucasian. It would be a language based slur. Anyway, it’s irrelevant.

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by Andrew Berkshire on Mar 16, 2011 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions

ATHAPAP joined this site a week ago, I would hardly call that member “a SCOC regular”.

He did not call anyone a Nazi. He used it as an analogy and explained his point rationally, which I agree was probably in poor taste. I will take those comments down.

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by Stanley Cup of Chowder on Mar 16, 2011 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions

Either that or delusion is not an isolated malady

HA! Brilliant!

by SkateHitShoot on Mar 17, 2011 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions

http://www.stanleycupofchowder.com/search?btn=Go&order=date&q=frog&type=Comment

So many instances of people using the term “frog” derogatorily. The only comment on here that is used that way is from 2009 and it was from a reader saying hypothetically what the average US TV viewer would might say if the Habs were part of the Winter Classic. Don’t accuse me and my readers of things you made up in your head.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Mar 17, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions

Oh Shit! How funny is it who that member was two years ago!

by SkateHitShoot on Mar 17, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions

Somebody...

PLease post this on Habs eyes on the Prize!

I would but…yup you guessed it…I’m banned

by KJSK on Mar 13, 2011 1:16 PM EDT reply actions

I’m pretty sure they’ve seen it

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Mar 13, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions

I'm sure they have too.

The point is did they hear the message?

Cherry’s points regardlees of his delivery, which was disrespectful, was that the non-suspension was about Rule 48, not an unfortunate head and neck injury.

by KJSK on Mar 13, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions

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by YeahTommyB4ZGermansGetThere on Mar 13, 2011 3:24 PM EDT reply actions

Kinda scary when Cherry actually makes sense.

by MattS on Mar 13, 2011 4:55 PM EDT reply actions

It’s not going to win him any fans or sympathy in Montreal but he’s right. You cannot claim that Chara intentionally pushed Pacioretty into the stanchion with the intention of maiming him and ask for less than a dozen game suspension. It would have been one of the most henious plays in the last decade of hockey.

The problem is there is no way to prove intent. The whole argument that Chara intended to do it takes liberal freedom with the facts. It was not a late hit. Chara initiates the hit less than a second after Pacioretty touches the puck. Chara did not ‘guide’ Pacioretty’s head with his hand. The overhead video shows Chara pushes on his shoulder and never makes contact with the head. The claim that there was bad blood between them also fails to impress when it relies on a light shove two games ago. The previous meeting between the two teams saw >180 penalty minutes, 12 fights and 7 game misconducts yet a light push the game before that is the gold standard for malicious intent.

What we’re left with is 13 year-long rap sheet with not a single hit of questionable intent. It’s not hard to see why Mike Murphy and the NHL ruled there was no basis to suspend Chara. Pushing for a 1-3 game suspension is basically admitting the intent to injure is not there and basing your argument against on the basis of the injury. I’m not a fan of that way of thinking either.

by Sinnach on Mar 13, 2011 5:10 PM EDT reply actions