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Will Patrice Bergeron play in Game 2? ...Julien: "I don't know"

Bruins head coach Claude Julien fielded questions from the media following Monday's practice at TD Garden. The question on everyone's minds of couse was "will Patrice Bergeron play in Game 2?". To that, Julien declined comment before saying, "I don’t know. Is that better? I don’t know."

The Bruins bench boss went on to say that the team is following protocol and cannot put a timeline on Bergeron's return at this point:

"Well, as I said the other day, we’re going through the protocol of what he has to go through. There’s not much more to update you guys on except that I think, when he is ready to go, I think you guys will know it. It’s just something that you can’t predict, how quickly, or how slow it’s going to be. It’s just one of those situations where, right now, you see him going through what you saw him going through today’s skating. But that’s protocol, and right now, we’re not ready to make any comments because he’s just going through those stages."

Personally, I would be very surprised to see Patrice Bergeron on the ice for the Bruins tomorrow. Based on the fact that he has not participated in a full-contact practice. Most sports head injury experts advise that a player be symptom-free for 24 hours after a full-contact practice. The earliest that Bergeron would be cleared for a full-contact practice would be tomorrow and with only a morning skate scheduled, the earliest that he could participate in a full-contact practice would be Wednesday. That means that if everything goes perfectly, the earliest that Bergeron would likely be clear for game action (if following the widely-accepted protocol) would be Thursday for Game 3. Of course, this is assuming that everything goes perfectly, which is not always the case with head injuries. As Julien pointed out "you can't predict, how quickly, or how slow it's going to be".

H/T to Stanley Cup of Chowder member SkateHitShoot for the link to the concussion assessment tool

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Penguins fan here. I’m cheering for the B’s now that the Pens are out.

Just want to wish you guys the best of luck against Tampa – I can’t stand their trapping ways. Good luck to Bergeron too. Us Pens fans can feel your pain after losing Crosby for the season.

Go Bruins!

"90% of the game is physical. The other half is mental." - Yogi Berra

by cyroose on May 16, 2011 3:02 PM EDT reply actions  

MUST…. RESIST…. URGE…

by BobbyOrrsBastard on May 16, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rec'd

"Jason Heyward was a Greek philosopher reincarnated as a baseball player." - Don Sutton

by UMDBHIK on May 16, 2011 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually last year in the playoffs I rooted for the Habs against the Pens. It wasn’t really a conscious choice on my part, I just found myself watching the game and hoping the Habs would kill them. Probably because last season the rivalry between the Bruins and Habs had gone a little cold and because the Habs don’t have the biggest piece of shit in hockey playing for them.

by MattS on May 17, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just like you. I’m a rangers/devils/kings fan that going all out for the bru crew now

by jjkjr1993 on May 17, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

WTF? Who is a Rangers fan and Devils fan??? This is sports polygamy at its worst.

by Stanley Cup of Chowder on May 17, 2011 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Then they throw in the Kings for s#!ts and giggles.

by WeatherExperiment on May 17, 2011 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you are going to root for two teams, you may as well pick one from another conference. A Rangers/Devils fan obviously has bi-polar disorder.

by MattS on May 17, 2011 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

or the rangers, flyers or anyone in our divison

they need to be very careful with bergy and im sure they are. but it must be annoying to be on the bs staff and hear the same questions from the fans over and over

by muffinman2 on May 16, 2011 3:48 PM EDT reply actions  

He didn’t say they were.
He was listing our division among other teams he wouldn’t cheer for. Silly! :)

by phonymahoney on May 16, 2011 4:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

My reading comprehension skills are about as good as muffinman’s grammar. Doh!

by Stanley Cup of Chowder on May 16, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think it's so much the grammar

as the reply button fail.

Heel for school, Vol for life!

Go Bolts! Out West, go Preds! Southern hockey solidarity!

by Incipient_Senescence on May 16, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just read that “doh!” with a Statler & Waldorf type voice. I’m in my car laughing my head off.

by phonymahoney on May 16, 2011 6:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Better not to rush him, right?

Though the thought of him not even playing game 3 makes me nervous.

by snowboard_kat on May 16, 2011 4:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Better not

list all the things CJ apparently “doesn’t know” here, or we could miss the game tonight.

(He does know it’s tonight, doesn’t he?)

by Espo.LLc on May 16, 2011 6:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Strategies and Adjustments

If the Bruins can come up with a strategy for tomorrow night that takes down the Lightning’s game plan allowing them to come up with a win, I think we can look forward to a Bergy-less Game 3 (or 4) with a bit more confidence. I’m having trouble completely buying into Julien’s claim that the Bruins “don’t have to adjust to Tampa’s game” and that they are going to “play their own game.”

Losing your top player, shifting lines, etc., means you have to adjust your game in some way, shape or form. Since that goes with the territory, why wouldn’t Julien give pause to analyzing Tampa’s gameplay and figure out what he and the team can do to defend against it…or in this case (since they are dealing with making offensive line changes) make offensive play changes that could throw off Tampa’s rhythm? I understand that the Bruins did well playing their own game on Saturday despite the 1:25 3-goal collapse. But it doesn’t mean they can’t tweak some things here and there if they think there’s a weakness in the Lightning’s game.

Am I being too cerebral about this? (Probably.) Thoughts?

by WeatherExperiment on May 16, 2011 8:09 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree with you, especially with the offensive part. They don’t need a fool-proof plan just as long as they’re making TB change the way they play. I don’t see that happening if they do the same offensively as they did Saturday.
I’d like to see them hitting everything that moves and maybe have Thornton (I love him) or Ryder sit out in lieu of Seguin. Segs was the Bruins’ best player the other night and CJ gave him hardly any ice time… he scored that sweetass goal and then sat on the bench for fifteen minutes straight. Now, I don’t think seguin will win the Cup for us or anything, but they need to play guys who have speed against TB and since Seguin clearly deserved the ice time he got (and more), why not give him another crack at it?

by phonymahoney on May 16, 2011 9:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

  • have one of them sit out when Bergy is back, I mean.
    I can’t change anything I’ve already typed on the mobile site unless I erase allllll of it. Doh!

by phonymahoney on May 16, 2011 9:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

“• have one of them sit out when Bergy is back, I mean.”

I knew exactly what you meant that before you made the correction.

by WeatherExperiment on May 16, 2011 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Remove the word "that"

I knew exactly what you meant before you made the correction.

by WeatherExperiment on May 16, 2011 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I knew exactly what you meant before you made the correction.

by phonymahoney on May 16, 2011 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Too cerebral?

No. I don’t think so. Wishful perhaps.

The coach (and staff) SHOULD be aware of what adjustments need to be made to bring out the best in their squad and to capitalize on the weakness of the other team. That would seem to be the whole point of their role with the team. It’s ok to say, “we’re going to do what we do best”, but if that means you go out the same old way, and get beat the same old way, damn, it’s time to change. The B’s certainly have enough weapons at their disposal to get the job done, now it’s up to CJ and the boys to maybe get a bit creative and figure it out.

by Espo.LLc on May 17, 2011 7:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

It seems like they make changes between games, but rarely make them during games, when maybe they could be most effective.

by phonymahoney on May 17, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think that if Boston plays their game, they have nothing to worry about. I wrote in just about every previous post that this is Boston’s series to lose, and if they do it’s because they handed the puck over to Tampa every chance they had. I don’t think the Bruins will shit the bed again tonight.

by MattS on May 17, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Coach Julien's Twitter Comments

 NHLBruins – Boston Bruins – Twitter

Julien on Thomas: “I don’t think there is a question mark as far as our goaltending.”^BISH
2 minutes ago " NHLBruins Boston Bruins

Julien on Savard being in town tonight: “Possibly…hopefully we’ll see him soon.”^BISH
3 minutes ago " NHLBruins Boston Bruins

Julien said Kampfer continues to work on conditioning. Added, “He’s close…”^BISH
7 minutes ago " NHLBruins Boston Bruins

Julien, asked if there was a competitive advantage to keeping 37’s status under wraps, said, “No comment…”^BISH
7 minutes ago " NHLBruins Boston Bruins

Julien on Bergeron: “If he’s in you’ll see him in warm-up.” On Lucic, “No problems there at all…”^BISH
9 minutes ago

by WeatherExperiment on May 17, 2011 11:44 AM EDT reply actions  

ESPN reporting that Bergeron is out tonight but ‘doing great’ and they expect him to play Thursday.

by BobbyOrrsBastard on May 17, 2011 12:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Based on the globe report?

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on May 17, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dunnos… this is what it said:

Boston Bruins forward Patrice Bergeron, who is recovering from a concussion, will not play in Game 2 of the Eastern Conference finals against the Tampa Bay Lightning Tuesday night at TD Garden, according to a team source.

The same source said, though, that Bergeron is “doing great.”

by BobbyOrrsBastard on May 17, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

So if he warms up, he plays?

by 13_Legion on May 17, 2011 4:04 PM EDT reply actions  

I’d rather he was out until Thursday if the choice is a Bergy at 90%, or one a dubious 60%.

by Espo.LLc on May 17, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

has anyone herad?

all the btiching and moaning about lucic being dirty lately?

by muffinman2 on May 17, 2011 4:21 PM EDT reply actions  

I personally think they are all just jealous that they can’t throw a half assed left jab and kill Victor Hedman.

by MattS on May 17, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

They have a point. He has been very stupid and hotheaded far too often… brings him extra scrutiny and earns him no favors with the league offices.

I don’t think the Hedman hit merited supplemental discipline (Hedman looked to be selling it) but it was certainly a stupid and very unnecessary play. As was getting tossed from the Montreal game and hurting his team.

He has a lot of growing up to do.

by BobbyOrrsBastard on May 17, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

The more he does that, the more other teams, especially those with a CH on their jersey, will try to bait him into doing it and getting a dumb penalty. It’s a problem.

And I sort of hate to say this, but he’s too quick to drop the gloves with a nobody. I know, I know, stick up for your teammates, respect the code, etc. But if he spends five in the box with the likes of Jay Rosehill and Jim Vandermeer, the Bruins lose that exchange.

by Phunwin on May 17, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is my only major criticism of Looch, him dropping the gloves with the 7th defenseman or a 4th liner is stupid. If he wants to fight Iginla, fine. Those other guys are for Thornton and McQuaid.

by MattS on May 17, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was thinking about this more at dinner and I remembered Chara and Georges Laraque sharing back to back fighting majors(though I think the second they gave them both roughing minors but I can’t remember). Talk about a talent mis-match.

by MattS on May 17, 2011 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

There was some mention on Raw Charge about Lucic throwing that “sucker punch” and him having a “history.” But nothing major. Where are you seeing all this talk?

by WeatherExperiment on May 17, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

ive seen it everywhere

yahoo, nhl.com, and here. everyone on our team could learn the talent mismatch idea. and that call on chara last night with downie is shit. the refs know what downie was trying to do (i hope, or theyre very dumb) and chara was trying to get away and downie punched him twice. bullshit

by muffinman2 on May 18, 2011 5:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

lately? You mean in a steady stream since he came into the league? Or did you mean from non-habs fans?

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on May 17, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whatever happened to the discipline they showed against Montreal?
I agree that things got out of hand the other night, and I strongly believe that tonight’s outcome will be very different, but I DO think that they have got to keep their cool. Especially Lucic. Totally agree with Phunwin, they can’t afford that kind of exchange. Or to put the Bolts on a needless PP. The B’s are at their best 5 on 5.
The physical side is a large portion of their game, but they need to be physical and not lose their heads. Aggresive, but intelligent. Just like they were against Montreal.

by Espo.LLc on May 17, 2011 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

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