Bruins even up series; Tyler Seguin (4 points) leads B's to 6-5 win
by Stanley Cup of Chowder on May 18, 2011 12:30 AM EDT
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19 year-old rookie Tyler Seguin was forced into his second career playoff game in place of the injured Patrice Bergeron (concussion) and the kid took advantage of the opportunity to prove that he can play with the big boys in the playoffs. Seguin netted 2 goals and added 2 assists, while linemate Michael Ryder racked up 3 points (2 goal, assist) to pace the Bruins to a 6-5 win over the Tampa Bay Lightning in a wild Game 2 of the Eastern Conference Finals at TD Garden.
The Lightning didn't waste much time as they found the back of the net just 13 seconds into the game. Vincent Lecavalier's shot missed the net wide right and the rebound caromed off the endboards and around the other side of the net to Adam Hall. Hall calmly deposited the puck in the empty net as Tim Thomas was frozen out of position.
The early goal seemed to lit a fire on the Bruins as their heavy offensive pressure forced Dwayne Roloson to make some big saves to preserve Tampa Bay's early lead and influenced Guy Boucher to use his timeout with 5:52 into the game with a 1-0 lead.
The Bruins evened it up at 1-1 on a power play goal from Nathan Horton at 13:58 of the first period. Horton set up in front and tipped Dennis Seidenberg's slapper from the top of the right circle over the right shoulder of Dwayne Roloson for the equalizer.
With just under 7 seconds left in the opening period, the Lightning regained the lead on a goal from Martin St. Louis. Steven Stamkos carried the puck into the right wing corner, spun around, and threw a backhander in the general direction of the net. St. Louis was driving hard to the crease and got a stick on it. St. Louis' tip deflected off the side of Johnny Boychuk's pants into the net to head to the dressing room with a 2-1 lead.
Tyler Seguin knotted it up at 2-2 with a spectacular breakaway goal 48 seconds into the middle period. Seguin took a pass from Michael Ryder in the neutral zone, split the Lightning defensemen and broke in all alone. He held the puck on the forehand and waited for Roloson to commit before moving the puck to the backhand and roofing a shot.
The B's took the lead for the first time in the series on a goal from David Krejci 2:24 into the second period. Dennis Seidenberg looked like he was ready to uncork a shot from the right slot until he saw Krejci driving to the net and threaded a perfect tape-to-tape pass to him. All Krejci had to do was nudge the puck across the goal line for his 6th goal of the postseason.
Moments after Tim Thomas stoned Ryan Malone on a breakaway, Tyler Seguin netted his second goal of the game to make it 4-2. Nathan Horton broke into the attacking zone 2-on-1 with Seguin to his right. Horton slid the puck to Seguin in stride and Seguin buried the puck past Roloson on the nearside 6:30 into the second period.
A cross-check by Mark Recchi on Steve Downie set-up a power play goal by Vincent Lecavalier 1:18 after Seguin's second tally of the game. Lecavalier fired a slapper from the top of the right circle that sailed through the pads of Tim Thomas to get the Bolts within one with just over 12 minutes to play in the second period.
Michael Ryder made it 5-3 on a power play goal with 3:44 left in the second period. Tyler Seguin's shot from the left wing hit Ryder in the shin in front of the Tampa Bay cage. Ryder gathered the puck and flung a bankhander over the blocker of Roloson for his third goal of the playoffs.
Ryder struck again 19 seconds left in the second period to make it 6-3. Tyler Seguin's backhand pass from the left wing boards found Chris Kelly in the slot. Kelly fired a shot that was kicked out by Roloson before Ryder jammed home the rebound for his second goal of the night.
After giving up 6 goals on 27 shots (including 5 goals on 9 shots in the second period), Guy Boucher pulled Dwayne Roloson for Mike Smith (who I believe is riding Astrology in the Preakness this Saturday).
Steven Stamkos' full stride wrister from the top of the left face-off circle whistled over the blocker of Tim Thomas to make it 6-4 with 16:13 left in the third period.
Dominic Moore pulled the Lightning to within one with 6:45 to go in the third period off of a wild scrum in crease. Victor Hedman's shot from along the goal line hit both posts and stayed out. On the scrabble for the rebound, Tim Thomas lost his mask. Moore picked up the loose puck and chipped it towards the net. The puck deflected off the unprotected face of Tim Thomas and in.
Despite some late pressure by the Lightning the Bruins were able to hang on to take Game 2 by a 6-5 final score to even up the series at 1-1 before heading to Tampa Bay for Game 3 and 4.
Notes:
- Marc Savard was in attendance tonight with his children and received a big ovation when he was shown on the TD Garden jumbotron.
- The Bruins went 2 for 6 on the power play tonight.
- While the offense and power play clicked tonight for the B's, it is hard to dismiss their poor defensive play tonight.
- It will be interesting to see the personnel decisions that Claude Julien will be forced to make when Patrice Bergeron returns to the lineup.
- Obviously, Tyler Seguin won "The Jacket" tonight. He could be seen the rocking the B's throwback jacket at the podium in the interview room at his post-game media availability.
- Chris Kelly and Tomas Kaberle were the only Bruins not to record hits tonight.
- It was a tale of two periods for Dwayne Roloson tonight. In the first period, he looked like Patrick Roy. In the second period, he looked like Hannu Toivonen.
- Due to poor ice conditions in Game 1, the TD Garden added an auxiliary refrigeration unit for tonight's game, but according to Sean Bergenheim of the Lightning, it did make much difference:
"The ice was…yeah. I didn’t notice that had been harder than any other day. I noticed the ice was a little bit heavier, but it is what it is."
- If you still think that the Lightning's last goal should not have been allowed, refer to Rule 9.5:
When a goalkeeper has lost his helmet and/or face mask and his team has possession of the puck, the play shall be stopped immediately to allow the goalkeeper the opportunity to regain his helmet and/or face mask. When the opposing team has possession of the puck, play shall only be stopped if there is no immediate and impending scoring opportunity. This stoppage of play must be made by the Referee. When play is stopped because the goalkeeper has lost his helmet and/or face mask, the ensuing face-off shall take place at one of the defending team’s end zone face-off
- Game 3 is Thursday night in Tampa at 8:00 PM ET.
Quotes:
Claude Julien on Tyler Seguin's play:
"He was extremely good tonight, there’s no doubt about that, one of our best players out there. And he used his speed very well tonight. He challenged their D’s with it, did a great job. And it was nice to see him respond that way. He’s competed extremely well and he’s been an excited individual waiting for his opportunity, and he’s certainly making the best of it."
Claude Julien on the high-scoring game tonight:
"When two teams start the series and they are two of the best defensive teams in the playoffs and then you see a game like this, I don’t think anybody’s happy. We want to score goals, there’s no doubt there. But the way we’ve been giving up goals is not something that we’re proud of right now. And we need to be better in regards to that."
Claude Julien on the explanation he got from the referees for allowing play to continue after Tim Thomas lost his mask:
"Well they gave me the right explanation. You are supposed to blow the whistle when the goalies mask comes off but if they are in the scoring position the referee’s have the discretion to let it go. And they felt they were in the scoring position and so they didn’t blow the whistle. For me it was understanding it, because when you look back at the replay the helmet is off for a while. And I was hoping they would have blown it earlier, but it was the right call."
Tyler Seguin on if being scratch in the playoffs served as motivation:
"You know, a little bit. Whenever I face adversity, I always try to take a negative and turn it into a positive. Watching the first two rounds, I could still learn a lot and see the game from up top. So whenever I get the opportunity again, whether it’s getting cut in World Juniors and going back to OHL or being the press box and coming back to the team, I want to take advantage of every opportunity."
Tyler Seguin on why we did not see this kind of play out of him earlier in the season:
"I think it’s just the learning curve. It’s been a whole learning curve all year. As the year went on, I’ve felt more confident and more poised. In big games, I always want to step up. Tonight I had some lucky bounces, but I was trying to take advantage of all the opportunities and they were going in tonight."
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Melrose on sportscenter saying “seguins beard makes him look like one of those Amish guys that make them fireplaces…”
by BlueNGoldBomber on May 18, 2011 2:29 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
i was yelling at the tv
when the bolts 5th goal happened. i knew the rule and when we cleared the puck out to the corner i thought that counted as possesion?! its a 4-6 win in my mind
Only during the 5th goal?
I turned the sound off because the announcers just infuriated me more… and my yelling was scaring the grandkid….sigh. Anyways.
A few things.
1. Anyone still wondering if Seguin will be ok now? Thank god we got him. And Ryder. At least for now. Seems I also jokingly mentioned they should be together on the PP a couple days ago. I almost look clairvoiant.
2. Is The BIg Tree, oops, I mean Big Z ever going to hit anyone in the 3rd period again? The Bolts and Timmy found out he makes a wonderful screen…and let’s only hope he’s not going to try to channel Orr or Bourque again. PASS the puck. PLEASE. He should just ask himself in those situations, “What would Nick Lidstrom do?” Then again, don’t. Lidstrom can skate.
3. TImmy’s amazing stop to WTF goal ratio is about 10 to 1. If only the D would give up less chances.
4. Horton’s getting chippier and chippier. Saw two more crosschecks in the last period that weren’t called. That could have spelled disaster.
5. Kaberle actually looked ok last night.
6. Paille was a one man penalty kill in the first.
7. Still trying to rationalize our time out. About 5 or 6 to go, up by 2, …um, yeah, let’s give the other team a rest. They haven’t taken a shot in almost 2 minutes…Still trying to get the knitting needles out of my eyes…
8. The Adventures of Milan Lucic and the Open Net. ’nuff said.
The Bolts are a DAMN good team. We played barely well enough to beat them. But at least we did.
by Espo.LLc on May 18, 2011 7:06 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
#7
NO SHIT! I knew he had one TO to burn but I figured he’d use it if they cut it to one, but it completly backfired. Tampa use the TO as a catalyis and really applied the pressure from there on. Time out fail.
Meanwhile the fans over at Raw Charge are claiming that the Bolts have been picked on by the refs all postseason and that last night they really favored Boston.
Me? I thought the refs were consistently tight last night and were tough on both sides. At least half the calls last night were ones that they would usually let go, especially in the playoffs.
by BobbyOrrsBastard on May 18, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
yep
i saw that they quoted me, idc tho. bad calls on both sides like i said. but the bolts got a free goal. not us, so whats wrong about my comment. i stand by it. malone had a phantom interfernce call and so did horton. but the chara downie thing made it obvious from the start this was gonna be a badly called game
Great game back and forth, but I have to ask, has anyone ever seen a team get more lucky bounces and weird scoring chances? Honestly, has Tampa Bay had one good regular hard fought goal yet this round?
1st goal, Bruins asleep
2nd goal, cannot believe the referree fell for Downie pulling Chara into a last minute penalty. Bolts will take that trade all day.
3rd goal, incredibly weak five hole from Timmy
4th goal, Stamkos down the wing with the puck on it’s side, off Thomas and in (this one’s not bad)
5th goal, the maskless goaltender and scramble.
And last game come on, scramble and a puck kicked right to Bergenheim, whole team falls asleep off the faceoff, and Kaberle basically puts one in his own net.
All their good scoring chances have been incredible saves from Thomas, and everything that looks harmless, Boom, in the back of the net.
All this buttoning and unbuttoning
I agree. There were some defensive lapses which led to the opportunities, but replay this game 10 times and it’s a laugher 9 of them. Also Roloson had some very good saves in the first when the Bruins had the puck in Tampa’s zone for basically 19 minutes.
I thought Chara and Boychuk had poor games, and Thomas let in a couple goals he shouldn’t have. Clean that up and we’re in great shape.
Here’s what worries me about “cleaning it up”: Boston’s defense has (secretly) been pretty bad this year save for Chara. When the Chara/Seidenberg pair isn’t on the ice, they’re vulnerable. Chara didn’t have a great game last night, to be sure, but I’m not worried about him.
Someone (or someones, plural) needs to step up and carry the second/third pair D. In the Montreal series, it was Ference, who was arguably Boston’s best player in the series. Against Philadelphia, Boychuk was excellent, but that series was tailor-made for his talents: hard hitting, straight ahead, low hockey IQs on the other side.
Boychuk is infuriating to watch when he gets away from his game. He needs to make big hits and take the body and worry about the puck when it’s on his tape. When he tries to be a version of Kaberle is when he gets into big trouble. Both the two early Tampa goals were a direct result of Boychuk puck watching. Why CJ keeps starting he and Ference is beyond me but not much he does makes any sense to me anymore. Boychuk needs to hip check, Kaberle needs to keep gaining entry on the PP HIS WAY, Ference and McQuaid both need to be better as well. Z did not have a good game last night, hopefully he has a huge game 3. If the D could have tightened up that would have been about a 6-2 game.
Well said. Boychuk’s value is in big hits and big shots. He’s not terrible at moving the puck, either. But positional play is poor. I think a Ference pairing actually makes some sense, though; I won’t hit CJ for that at all. If you look at Boston’s defense, it suggests itself pretty readily:
Chara/Seidenberg – It’s the playoffs, just put your 2 best D on ice together for half the game. They can sleep in July.
Boychuk/Ference – Ference has decent hockey sense and positioning. His weakness is in moving the puck out of his own zone. Boychuk has some offensive skill, but is often out of position.
McQuaid/Kaberle – McQuaid has no offensive skill. Kaberle has defensive skill, but hasn’t shown it.
I don’t mind the Ference/Boychuk paring, I just don’t know why CJ always starts the game with them. I don’t think Boychuk is a pace setter if that makes any sense. I feel like he needs someone else to have a big hit or a line has a great shift and then that stokes his fire and he comes alive.
We’re on the same page with everything else. These guys can get it done and be very effective when they stick to their game, they just need to play better and maintain defensive positioning and not allow Tampa’s speedy forwards to pounce on those loose pucks.
Agree...
some call the refs missed. Tampa is a good team but they had some breaks as well.
by snowboard_kat on May 18, 2011 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions
good point. hope we are able to do the same.
by snowboard_kat on May 19, 2011 5:18 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree, but this was Montreal’s game plan, too, and it gave Boston a hell of a time: force Boston into making mistakes, and capitalize. This Bruins team, for all their delightful combo of skill and toughness, is absolutely capable of shooting themselves in the foot. They did it in game 1, and damn near did it last night.
it's strange to say Tampa is getting all of the lucky bounces
because I don’t know how only two goals went in in the third period. Tim Thomas was ridiculous, and some shots that looked perfect just ended up deflecting somehow and going wide. But then, as you mentioned, a couple soft goals went in. I think the lesson is that if you throw it at the net all night, eventually it’s going to go in, even if it isn’t the one you expect. Point to Boston’s fifth as another example of this. The shot never even made the net, but it deflected off Ryder and settled in shooting position. That’s what happens when you take a lot of shots and get people in front of the net.
Against Washington, there were a couple goals that I’d more describe as lucky, but even then, Behind the Net said that the Bolts amount of luck was the same as the league average. And I definitely don’t count mad scramble goals as luck. If there’s a mad scramble in front of the net, the offense has done its job. And bad defense/goalkeeping goals (#1 and #3) aren’t luck either. I’m afraid the Bruins took advantage of quite a lot of that in the second period.
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by Incipient_Senescence on May 18, 2011 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions
I think Marttisdad may be using “lucky bounces” and “soft goals” interchangeably. Whether that’s correct or not is another question, but I don’t think Tampa has gotten an abundance of lucky bounces at all; there was one in the third where the puck bounced just over Bergenheim(?)’s stick that would have been a sure goal if it settled.
I do think they’ve gotten an abundance of soft goals.
that would explain the comment
The first and third goals last night were definitely soft, and you could argue that all three first period goals on Saturday were.
It’s sometimes hard to draw the line between bad defending and good offense, because I think there was a lot of both on either side last night. But really, Seguin should not just waltz by two defenders without them doing so much as waving at him. Great play from the offensive perspective, and not one you want to categorize as lucky or soft, but from the defending perspective. . . professional hockey players should not let that happen.
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by Incipient_Senescence on May 18, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Note that Hedman made enough stick contact to get a penalty called on the play as well.
by BobbyOrrsBastard on May 18, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
and that's all he did.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on May 18, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That third period was a nightmare. But a win’s a win.
Kaberle played a decent game, and hopefully that (and 2 PP assists) are what he needs to get his confidence back and playing like the top 4 D we all thought the Bruins picked up. Probably didn’t hurt that over half his time in this one came on the PP.
I’m wondering what they’ll do when Bergeron comes back; this team needs him, and more than I thought they did. My thought: sit Thornton, put Kelly on the 4th line and make it a shutdown line. Tampa Bay’s not likely to be dropping the gloves in this series, and if they do, Lucic, Chara, McQuaid and Campbell are all more than capable of taking care of business, thus Thornton’s raison d’etre is mooted. And hell, he only played 4 minutes last night, so he’s probably the guy who’s going to go. I hate to say it, because he’s a hard worker and good teammate, but I don’t think you can sit anyone else. Ryder seems to have great chemistry with Seguin, and Kelly’s been too good in the playoffs to sit. Paille makes no sense because putting Seguin on a 4th line with Campbell and Thornton would be a waste of time.
The defensive play in the third was brutal. The only way Johnny Boychuk could have played worse would have been to fire a 100 mph slapshot at Tim Thomas’ head after he lost his mask.
agreed
Thorny will have to sit. It is the only move that makes sense. A 4th line of Campbell, Paille and Kelly should geta butt load of ice time and play some dependable D for Coach J.
What a great problem to have!
I’d have to agree on Thorton, Paille has been great on the PK and Soup is still getting 10 minutes a game. I was thinking maybe Rex could use a game off but he looked good on the PP with The Kid and Ryder. Either way I bet Segs is still on a short leash. A couple of missed assignments and fading away from contact will get him back to the press box.
by SkateHitShoot on May 18, 2011 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions
He had a great game no doubt, but he can’t go 11 games without a point and last night was his first game with a positive +/- since February 18th ( 19 games)! I hope he’s learned what it takes to stay in the lineup, it could be pretty special if he did.
by SkateHitShoot on May 18, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
At this point I don’t care who sits because the idea of getting Bergeron back and Seguin being on fire is awesome. Seriously, this is a great problem to have. I’m already excited for next season. If Savy comes back and gets back to form can you imagine what this team could do? God damn, son.
Savvy is not coming back. But regardless, imagine what this team could do the rest of this season. Don’t have too much further to go.
Good to see Savvy last night!
Don’t have too much further to go.its thoughts like this that make getting any work done impossible!
WOOOO!
by SkateHitShoot on May 18, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m not totally convinced yet. I think there is a better chance of him hanging it up, but I’m not sure. He looked to have put on a good 10-20lbs though. I didn’t even recognize him at first sitting next to Bergy last night. Golf isn’t really great at burning the calories I guess.
I’d love to see Savvy back and in his 06-09 form. The issue is the memory lapses and headaches that he has admitted to still suffering from. In addition, given the size of his contract, the Bruins would have had to insure it. The best thing for Savvy’s long term health and finances will be to retire this summer due to medical issues. He’ll get the insurance payout and hopefully recover from the memory loss issues in due time. If anything Boogaard’s death, at 28 yo mind you, has further cemented Savard’s mind. My guess is 95% that he retires… at a certain point the long term damage just isn’t worth the risk… this is the biggest concern for Bergeron as well.
by gordiehowehattrick on May 18, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s a great point about Boogaard, I hadn’t even thought of that. I wonder if that will play into Lidstrom’s or Rex’s retirement plans?
Are you messing with me?
I mentioned Boogaard b/c he was out the rest of this season with a concussion and has had a physical role in the NHL that would lend itself towards brain trauma. Lidstrom and Rex are 40+ years old and have had relatively lucky careers as far as injuries go. With all that the professional sports community is learning regarding head injuries, I’m just saying I wouldn’t be surprised if Savard takes that into account given the potential for quality of life issues down the road.
Just forget about Savvy playing ever again… it’s not happening.
by gordiehowehattrick on May 18, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Adam Graves blew up because he can’t work out due to concussions.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on May 18, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree, I seriously doubt he’ll be back.
by phonymahoney on May 18, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed, Thornton needs to sit. I love the guy and the emotion he brings to the team/game, but I think sitting him is our best move when Bergy comes back.
by phonymahoney on May 18, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
You really can’t sit Paille (who had an unbelievable PK shift last night). I don’t see Campbell sitting either, so that just leaves Thornton. It’s a trade I take every day of the week.
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I thought the B’s first period was one of thier best all year, 18 minutes of complete domination. They could of had five in the first were it not for Roly!
The third was terrible, the Bruins at thier worst!
Seeing Seguin do what he did in the second was pretty incredible and that was Kabs best game of the playoffs! What a wierd game!
Andrew Ference broke into the attacking zone 2-on-1 with Seguin to his right. Ference slid the puck to Seguin in stride and Seguin buried the puck past Roloson on the nearside 6:30 into the second period.
That was Horton in on the 2-on-1
by BobbyOrrsBastard on May 18, 2011 8:46 AM EDT reply actions
Oops, not usre what I was thinking there. It was late.
by Stanley Cup of Chowder on May 18, 2011 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought one of the best parts of seguins game was he got ryder to wake up again and score some goals. Not only did seguin dominate but he got ryder to as well. Julien can’t even get ryder to wake up!
by Kfr675 on May 18, 2011 9:14 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
How ironic, a 19 year old gets it done in 2 games, cj hasn’t been able to do it for 3 years.
by BlueNGoldBomber on May 18, 2011 9:58 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Wonder how much of seguins success the last 2 has been because of fresh and healthy legs? We all know he’s fast but also hasn’t been through 2 rounds of playoff hockey. Think it makes him a little faster,
good strategy Cj! Lol
by Kfr675 on May 18, 2011 12:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
fresh yes, but still a 19 year old kid, who, at 7 oclock last saturday had never been in a playoff game. i bet the fresh legs doesnt hurt, but i think it has much more to do with the kid having “it”
by BlueNGoldBomber on May 18, 2011 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Apparently Bergeron was on full contact duty at practice yesterday, and all reports look good today. He’s traveling to Tampa with the team, and looks like he will see at least one game on the road… Now we have to think about the question that noone wants to answer… Who sits?
by BlueNGoldBomber on May 18, 2011 9:57 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
That’s good news on Bergy, can’t wait to see how he looks!
by SkateHitShoot on May 18, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
about the ice
I noticed as the third period was about to begin there were several puddles of water.
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That’s not uncommon
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on May 18, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Was more than usual though.
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by Marisa Ingemi on May 18, 2011 4:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
There were large puddles.
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by Marisa Ingemi on May 18, 2011 4:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Sometimes it is just the zamboni driver putting down too much water or the buliding being warm and the ice taking longer to completely freeze after the zamboni passes. The water that the zamboni floods the ice with is hot.
by Stanley Cup of Chowder on May 18, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
A good Zamboni driver is worth his weight in gold. It takes some skill to use those things properly and create a decent playing surface. You have to know just how much to throttle back the water when you are going around a corner. When you have tons of water around the corner boards it’s usually because the driver didn’t cut back on the water when he was making his corner.
Yeah, I suck at the zamboni driving on NHL 11. I’m pretty sure if I did it in real life, there’d be dozens of dead and a couple hundred injured.
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You can drive the zamboni in NHL ’11?
by Stanley Cup of Chowder on May 18, 2011 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
pretty sure you mean NHL 2k11 for Wii which does zamboni driving
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on May 19, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
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