Bruins Offer Kaberle Rights
by Michael Taylor on Jun 29, 2011 2:55 PM EDT
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PrintAccording to Darren Dreger at TSN, the Bruins have emailed the rest of the league regarding a potential trade for the negotiating rights to Tomas Kaberle prior to the July 1st UFA deadline. This would seem to signal a parting of ways between the team and their biggest deadline acquisition in years. But could it also foreshadow the defending Stanley Cup Champions thoughts on the coming Free Agency period?
Aside from Brad Richards, there doesn't seem to be a single no doubt impact player entering Free Agency. There are several good, but not great players (Christian Ehrhoff, Simon Gagne, James Wisniewski) hitting the market combined with several big market teams who view themselves as contenders (or one player away from contention), as well several small market teams who need to spend money to hit the cap floor. This would appear to be the perfect storm of contracts teams will regret as early as this year's trading deadline.
If the Bruins were unable to come to terms with two players in Kaberle and Michael Ryder, that they are comfortable with and who would appear to be good candidates for at least small discounts, then you wonder whether they'll have the stomach for bidding wars with teams who aren't coming off a Stanley Cup win. There is also the feeling that the Bruins are moving towards become a player development type of organization, similar to how the Red Wings or even the Red Sox are run. None of their returning top eight forwards were acquired via free agency. On defense, only Zdeno Chara was signed away from another team. While people may initially dismiss players like Steven Kampfer, Matt Bartkowski, Jordan Caron, and Jamie Arniel as potential contributors on a cup winning roster, there weren't many who saw Brad Marchand, Johnny Boychuk, or Adam McQuaid in that capacity entering their rookie seasons as well.
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If Pitkanen got $4.5M, that might be what Kaberle is insisting on. I thought that the Pitkanen deal might help us, since he only signed for 3 years, but it might be having the opposite effect.
If Kaberle wants $4.5M, so long. I want to keep him, but not at that price.
yeah, I’d take him around $3m I think, but absolutely not at $4-4.5m. Ridiculous.
Suck it, Felger!
by phonymahoney on Jun 29, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
i was thinking 3.4
You know how I said my profile pic would always be an animal? well, Chara's a BEAST!
this is not surprising. we know the Bruins aren’t going to break the bank for Kaberle, so he was always going to test the market. not sure why they didn’t shop his rights earlier, but it’s pretty irrelevant, unlikely they would get anything more than a 7th, bumped to a 5th with a signing… if they were lucky. With the market as is, Kaberle is going to get much more than the Bruins are willing to spend.
maybe they did shop his rights earlier, but we’re just hearing about it now?
Suck it, Felger!
by phonymahoney on Jun 29, 2011 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed.
I am sure that Kaberle is looking for his big pay day and considering over the duration of his last contract he was underpaid considering what other D men were getting. That being said since he signed that deal GM’s and teams have become a bit tighter in throwing money around (well at least until this offseason it appears). I like Kaberle and what he offers but he is not a top pairing defenceman anymore and I am sorry I cant justify paying him more than Seidenberg. The other thing the Bruins seem to be doing that has been mentioned many times is that they are trying to keep their cap manageable as there are a fwe RFA’s and some UFA’s coming over the next few years that they would like to hold on to more than Kaberle.
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I really don’t see the Bruins giving Kabs a raise and he’s probably going to be expecting one. Oh well. Is anyone going to lose sleep if he doesn’t come back? I’m not. He was a rental and he just didn’t pan out like everyone hoped he would.
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He helped us win the cup, I’d say it panned out.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 29, 2011 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I was referring more to him turning the Bruins into a PP power house which didn’t happen. Though most of us knew there was more to the PP issues than what Kabs was bringing to the table. Sure, he helped the Bruins win the cup, but was he a major or even necessary piece of the puzzle? I don’t think so. His presence has been pretty “meh” in my opinion. Miro Satan part deux.
Hey now… Kaberle had a huge impact on the playoffs!
He kept Hnidy off the ice!
by BobbyOrrsBastard on Jun 29, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He did have the highest points per 60 minutes of 5v5 of any Bruins defenseman. Though Boychuk was second on that list so maybe it’s more a function of his limited ice time than anything.
Much like Wideman last year, he also led defensemen in scoring.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 30, 2011 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions
This year’s NHL Free Agent class reminds of the baseball one after the Sox won the series in 2004. One stellar player (Beltran), and a bunch of guys with question marks, and in the end, I don’t think there was one team that was happy with the player they signed (the Red Sox signed Renteria and Matt Clement).
All the factors here:
1. Salary Cap taking a big jump up (some would say it went too high)
2. The Bruins perception as a less than dominant champion
3. Teams needing to get to the Cap Floor
make me think this is going to get ugly, and quick.
TSN is reporting that Columbus acquired the rights to Wisniewski for a 7th round pick. The pick becomes a 5th if they are successful in signing him.
Should give an idea of Kaberle’s value (slightly higher I would think) and exactly what Dbaker pegged it as above.
by BobbyOrrsBastard on Jun 29, 2011 3:55 PM EDT reply actions
sooooo i can't bring this sign to the games next year?
HOCKEY TEMPER!
FOURHORTON!
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by Losted125 on Jun 29, 2011 8:03 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
R U Freakin HIGH !
WHY WOULD YOU LET KABERLE GO ! ? ! OMG WTF THATS NUCKIN’ FUTZ !
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been drinking the koolaid over at PPP? He’s not a terribly popular guy around here and none of us want a grossly overpaid 5/6 dman
WOW ! ….
You actually have a STUD D Man and you dont want him. …. Win one Stanley Cup and suddenly your too good for yourselves. You Know….. Florida or Edmonton or NY Islanders or Columbus would KILL to have half the players your team has and you say things like you dont want him because he is not Popular and grossly overpaid. Was he grossly overpaid when he quarterbacked your PP in the Playoffs ? Be Careful what you wish for .. You just may get what you ask for and not get as Crappy as the Florida Panthers.
how did the BOSTON area sports fans suddenly turn snobbish like the NY fans ? how you ask ? easy … have all 4 of your pro sports teams win at least one championship in the last 10 years and suddenly all Bostonians are Puffing their Chests out like New Yorkers. … Just prior to 2000 Bostonians were in the same boat as Philly fans… No Championships in Decades and feeling the pain… now your too good for yourselves.
I know I am going to get killed on this soo….
and let the haters begin hating in …. 3…. 2….. 1…. GO !
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Yes, we are haters cause we have differing opinions from you. God forbid someone should hold an opposing view from you!
by BobbyOrrsBastard on Jun 29, 2011 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
now wait… see… this is what I mean… No one said you couldnt have a diff opinion. but .. man .. do you realize how talented he is and what your letting walk away ?
Crap I wish the FLYERS had Cap Space and I was the GM I would sign him right away and laugh at the awesome pick up that you let walk.
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They do have cap space… remember they traded their captain and top scorer for scraps? I’m sure they could use the full 8M they have left to sign him!
by BobbyOrrsBastard on Jun 29, 2011 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Of course, if you think spending 3M+ on a 5th Dman in a salary cap era is wise then by all means, feel free to do so (based on TOI… was only 3min above unheralded McQuaid and down 5 min from regular season)
Would explain why the Flyers are forever in such a cap crunch
by BobbyOrrsBastard on Jun 29, 2011 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Was he grossly overpaid when he quarterbacked your PP in the Playoffs ?
Oh good god yes. Not sure if you actually watched our godawful Pp efforts.
As to the Boston fan rant, project away, not sure where your getting that out of a single sentence expressing disdain for an underperforming deadline acquisition
by TomServo42 on Jun 29, 2011 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You actually have a STUD D Man and you dont want him. …. Win one Stanley Cup and suddenly your too good for yourselves.
Uh, did you watch Kaberle this postseason? Like, actually watch a few games instead of just highlights?
Was he grossly overpaid when he quarterbacked your PP in the Playoffs ?
Yes, he absolutely was. Absolutely.
Suck it, Felger!
by phonymahoney on Jun 30, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
how did the BOSTON area sports fans suddenly turn snobbish like the NY fans ? how you ask ? easy … have all 4 of your pro sports teams win at least one championship in the last 10 years and suddenly all Bostonians are Puffing their Chests out like New Yorkers. … Just prior to 2000 Bostonians were in the same boat as Philly fans… No Championships in Decades and feeling the pain… now your too good for yourselves.
Wow, jealous much?
Also, I think a lot of people on this blog don’t pay attention to the rest of the Boston teams. I hope the Sox win but haven’t cared about them since all the pinkhats came. I don’t like basketball or football, so they’re out, too. Maybe my being “too good for myself” (what the fuck does that even mean, dude?) comes from actually wanting players who make a positive difference on my team.
Suck it, Felger!
by phonymahoney on Jun 30, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Chicago bought Steve Montador's rights.
SOMEBODY WANTS STEVE MONTADOR?
http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/41123-Blackhawks-acquire-rights-to-Montador-for-future-draft-pick.html
Suck it, Felger!
blackhawks are in dire straits on D. They traded their #3 (campbell) and their #4 (Hjalmarsson) took a massive step back last year. The rotated a couple promising kids (mostly Leddy) and a pilon (Scott) on the 5/6 pair until they got Campoli, who wasn’t a massive upgrade. Montador’s actually a decent idea for them if they don’t give in to the overpayment spree
Scott is such an utter waste. I laugh at any team that still employs straight-up goons like him.
by BobbyOrrsBastard on Jun 30, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
BAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
wait Really?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH no no you lie come on really?
HOCKEY TEMPER!
FOURHORTON!
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