How the Bruins top line dominated, but got very little help
At The Cult of Hockey we kept track of a new scoring chance stat, Roger Neilson numbers, and in Game 2 of the Stanleu Cup finals, they showed just how much Nathan Horton, David Krejci and Milan Lucic dominated for the Bruins, and just how little every else did for the cause. The big three made plays (23) on more scoring chances than all the other forwards combined (18). So Boston's Big Bad Line got it done and were unlucky not to score more. But this defeat was no mirage, based on the lack of production of the other lines. Can Patrice Bergeron or Tyler Seguin step up? Not sure.
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I think one of their problems is that what seems to be happening is that they bring it into the Canucks’ zone, and one of these is always happening:
- one guy brings it in, tries to take on all the Canucks himself, either creating a turnover
- whomever skates it into the Canucks’ end is not passing it and getting a poor quality chance (for examples on the former, Marchand, as for the latter, Ryder)
- it looks to me like they’re so afraid of the Canucks gaining an odd man rush that the Bruins aren’t sending enough guys in to do a 2 on 1/give and go or really anything other than a piss-poor breakaway where there are four Canucks defending against one Bruin.
That said, they have made some quality scoring chances as well – they just need to pinch (but not too much!), create traffic and keep putting ‘em on net.
I’m confident that they can win the next two at home.
agree, great assesment
we need some energy and beeter breakouts. possesion has been a problem since we have no savvy (RIP savvy)
he’s gotta be done for sure. le sigh. I feel terrible for him.
by phonymahoney on Jun 5, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
it hurts
but ill rememeber watching him. shit i still got memorys of Neely stuck in my head somewhere
for Horton
sigh
I’m still sad that Cam had to retire when he did. Went to Cam Neely night and bawled my eyes out.
Fucking knees. Fucking hip. Fucking Ulf.
For Horton!
by phonymahoney on Jun 9, 2011 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
i honestly think we would win the cup if we had savvy at 100%
can u imagine this bruins team with a good PP? can u say juggernaut?
agreed,
the PP would be vastly improved. doh!
by phonymahoney on Jun 5, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Sorry but someone has to take the blame
As I said before Bergy is the face of the Bruins. And now, more than ever, his play needs to rise above all other Bruins. The offense needs to step it up now. If Claude insists on juggling the defense, putting Chara in front of Luongo and splitting up the Chara/Seidenburg duo at inopportune times, this team is going to lose. Go back to the original pairings on D and get your offense to create chances infront of the net by drilling shots at Luongo instead of clearing it in every time and skating after it.
We saw exactly what putting Lucic in front of the net can do. He can be chippy with the Vancouver defense and he can score from there, plain and simple. Chara looks drained, like he doesn’t want to be there, and he’s getting beat up. Let him play defense and cover the point, please!
I’m worried about Timmy. He talks like he’s OK. But I sensed a little animosity toward the media when he said
“I have a pretty good idea of how to play goalie, I’m not going to be taking suggestions at this time. I’m just going to keep playing the way I am.”
Then when Thomas was pressed further, Claude defended him, saying
“To me, he’s the Vezina Trophy winner. We are here right now because of his contribution. For us to be sitting here having to answer those kind of questions is ridiculous to me. He’s won a Vezina Trophy already, and he’s probably going to win one this year. To question his way of playing is really looking for something to talk about. Yesterday he made some unbelievable saves to keep us in the game, so if you want to focus on that last goal — which I think there were a lot of other players who could have done a better job — it’s focusing on the wrong thing.”
Sorry Claude. Don’t mean to bash you and the last thing I want to do is blame Timmy. You’re right…Thomas has been a huge factor in getting the Bruins to this point in the playoffs. But in that instance, it Timmy has some of the blame to take. He shouldn’t have come out to try and push Burrows. He should have simply stayed with Burrows to protect the net and let Chara handle it. Timmy’s job was to get back to the other side of the net and protect it, which I truly think he could have done if he hadn’t tried to check Burrows off the puck.
This was also Chara’s blame to take. Chara was right with him, that was his responsibility. But he made a wrong decision in not pulling Burrows down with Timmy out of position. I realize all of these things are split-second decisions, which is why, ultimately,…
…this was Coach Julien’s blame to take. Whatever he was trying to do to throw Vancouver’s line changing off obviously didn’t work. While hindsight is 20/20, why not just start off with your top line defensive pair? The Bruins won the faceoff, but then confusion ensued in controlling the puck. I think your top lines (forwards and defense) should be out there to start off a critical OT period…PERIOD.
Finally, last time I checked, this is the Stanley Cup Finals. The focus is on two teams and two teams only. The media is going to ask questions. They’re going to ask why certain actions happened in the game, including what adjustments you might make for the next game. You can play the Belichick card if you want, Claude, but you have to expect these types of questions to come because it’s the Finals. Frankly, I see them as legitimate questions. I don’t view them as “ridiculous” at all.
by WeatherExperiment on Jun 6, 2011 10:55 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I’m working together with David Staples at the Edmonton Journal blog, the Cult of Hockey. I scored Neilson Numbers for Game One of the SCF and will be scoring Game Three tonight. (Good luck, B’s fans!)
Both in the game I scored and the one I relaxed and watched, I didn’t think Chara played all that well, and I was especially unimpressed with Ference, whose puckhandling, pinching, and all-around decision-making left a lot to be desired in my view. I was stunned when the two of them lined up together for the start of overtime, an experiment which ended badly within seconds. What the heck was Julien thinking there?
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by Bruce McCurdy on Jun 6, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Ference in game 3 was superb. But I’m not using numbers, I was using the eye test.
by Johnny Appleseed on Jun 9, 2011 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't get me wrong, the rest of them didn't play a perfect game by any means,
but Timmy, Chara and Ference really share the blame on this one. Ference turning it over like that was bad, Timmy lunging at Burrows in an attempt to pounce on him and gain possession and utlimately missing was just brutal, and Chara, supposedly being a guy who’ll do whatever it takes to win, decides to just make an ill-fated attempt at poking the puck away and running Burrows off the road, when ideally, he could’ve hauled Burrows down or knocked the net out of place and just took the penalty rather than the loss. Personally, I’d rather they had to kill a penalty than lose by a horrible messy blunder of goal like that.
oops.
Anyway, I think the three of those guys, plus Julien, need to share the blame for 11-second trainwreck that was game 2’s overtime. Seidenberg has been so on his game lately that I doub the’d have made such a costly turnover in OT. Had he been out there, the outcome may not be the same.
we played better
than the nucks, then the bruins quit out in the third (when VAN plays its best). its the problem i saw all year. getting onto a lead and get lazy and defensive. we need to keep i foot on the pedal and never let up
for sure
the B’s play a great game when they’re behind, sit on their lead too much when they’re ahead
Error correction
The word “it” should not be in that sentence before the word “Timmy.” Should read “But in that instance, Timmy has some of the blame to take.”
by WeatherExperiment on Jun 6, 2011 10:59 AM EDT reply actions
Here is Cult of Hockey’s statistical analysis of Game Three of the SCF.
A great win for the Bruins under difficult circumstances.
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