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OMIGOD IT WAS ALL TRUE. EVERYTHING THEY TOLD ME WAS TRUE.

The Calgary Flames announced today that they have acquired former Flame center Michael Cammalleri, goaltender Karri Ramo and a 5th round pick in the 2012 NHL Entry Draft from the Montreal Canadiens in exchange for forwards Rene Bourque, Patrick Holland and a 2nd pick in the 2013 NHL Entry Draft.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=611432&navid=DL|NHL|home

Um, scuse me, “former Flame center”? You mean former HABS center???? NHL.com you are so faaaaaail lol you suck

Carry On.

by Birda on Jan 12, 2012 10:14 PM EST reply actions  

He played for the Flames. Had his best year there playing alongside Jarome.

by BobbyOrrsBastard on Jan 12, 2012 10:16 PM EST up reply actions  

anyone else feel it's weird...

…when a player gets traded from a team and then back to them??? i does. for certain. once you’re done with a team, you should be done. and never return. unless you are miroslav satan in which case you should def come back to bahstin just so we can make Satan jokes constantly.

Carry On.

by Birda on Jan 12, 2012 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

it is odd, but here's an example -

The Bruins sent Glen Murray to Pittsburgh, I think for Stevens and McEachern (waaaaste), and then he went to LA soon afterward… they also traded Stumpel to LA for Khristich and Dafoe… then they traded Eloranta and Allison for Stumpel and Murray.

But when you think about it, needs change… could need a D today, and then one of your prospects matures, a winger gets hurt or retired, and whoosh, you need a winger instead.

Kick his ass, Seabass!

by phonymahoney on Jan 12, 2012 11:58 PM EST up reply actions  

http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=384922

Rene Bourque is the main piece. Definitely a lesser return.

They do buy some cap relief… Cami had 3 more years at 6 per while Rene has 5 more at 3.33

by BobbyOrrsBastard on Jan 12, 2012 10:16 PM EST reply actions  

Patrick Holland

Can’t get access to hockeydb right now but from what I can tell he was a 7th round pick last season. So in other words, a nobody.

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=118254

by BobbyOrrsBastard on Jan 12, 2012 10:21 PM EST up reply actions  

goalies are usually drafted lower than forwards/d, yes/no?

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by sarahconnors on Jan 13, 2012 9:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Haven’t the slightest idea. More 1st rounders seem to go to skaters but that has a lot to do with the sheer numbers involved (9 to 1 ratio).

Holland is a forward though so not sure the relevance…

by BobbyOrrsBastard on Jan 13, 2012 9:43 AM EST up reply actions  

I’d rather keep Camo. I’m sure all the douchiness in Montreal had a lot to do with this move. Of course, his cap hit hurts, especially when you already are paying dead weight like Gomez, who nobody will take.

Kick his ass, Seabass!

by phonymahoney on Jan 12, 2012 11:59 PM EST up reply actions  

So did they just acquire a Bourque to troll the Bruins?

by TomServo42 on Jan 12, 2012 10:22 PM EST reply actions  

Wanted to fill their quotient of cheap-shot artists?

by BobbyOrrsBastard on Jan 12, 2012 10:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Saw Pouliot tonight and missed having a guy who takes stupid penalties for them?

by TomServo42 on Jan 12, 2012 10:25 PM EST up reply actions  

ha ha ha…quite possible. Montreal seems to like to make big deals out of nothing really. BUT what you said reminded me of the internal knee-jerk hissy fit I had EVERY TIME I saw the NHL 12 ad touting their Legends League…Ray Bourque as a FLYER? NOOOOOOOOO…….

by Miss Muse on Jan 12, 2012 11:34 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

just wrong.

Kick his ass, Seabass!

by phonymahoney on Jan 13, 2012 12:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Blasphemy of the highest order right there.

It prevented me from buying the game.

He’s always a Bruin, and occasionally an Av if I’m in a good mood.

by Anthony Emerson on Jan 13, 2012 9:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes. It’s their Bourque jealousy/trolling, undoubtedly.

Kick his ass, Seabass!

by phonymahoney on Jan 13, 2012 12:00 AM EST up reply actions  

I was saying this move is an attempt by Montreal to fall farther down the standings to get the first pick and draft Nail Yakupov…

by BobbyOrrsBastard on Jan 12, 2012 10:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t know, Columbus is like 12 points behind them. Big jump… or fall

Kick his ass, Seabass!

by phonymahoney on Jan 13, 2012 12:02 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t know who you are, but I like this answer. You just might be one of us. Watch out for your mental health.

Kick his ass, Seabass!

by phonymahoney on Jan 13, 2012 12:01 AM EST up reply actions  

HA!

that went down the toilet as soon as my father introduced me to boston sports as a baby! you gotta be all in or not at all.

Carry On.

by Birda on Jan 13, 2012 12:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Someone has to, right?

by Miss Muse on Jan 13, 2012 12:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Does Nail speak French?

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by Arenacale on Jan 13, 2012 7:28 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I can see his nose growing!
Gauthier says they wanted to add size up front and get those tougher goals. Says Cammalleri’s comments did not expedite trade.

by BobbyOrrsBastard on Jan 12, 2012 10:29 PM EST reply actions  

Another tweet:

One NHL GM when told of the trade, said he wished he knew Cammalleri was available. Would have made an offer.

Man, this reminds me of another completely insane trade that happened a few years ago…

by BobbyOrrsBastard on Jan 12, 2012 10:32 PM EST up reply actions  

?

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by Arenacale on Jan 13, 2012 9:23 AM EST up reply actions  

You’d have to ask Mikey O’Connell… we will never know since he didn’t bother telling the league he was on the block.

by BobbyOrrsBastard on Jan 13, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I actually really liked Wayne Primeau when he was on the B’s. Like, really.

The trade was horribad tho.

Kick his ass, Seabass!

by phonymahoney on Jan 13, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

duuuuh

Kick his ass, Seabass!

by phonymahoney on Jan 13, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think that Montreal’s getting anything here that’s going to make their team better, not this year and not in the near future. The team needs a gigantic overhaul, and it needs to start in the front office, which is too weak-willed to put together a team that can compete in its division.

The real question for me at this point – and I know they’ve battled injuries and Gionta was never really healthy this year and Gomez is way overvalued by the franchise, but I digress – is which season is more indicative of what we can expect from Montreal the next three or four seasons, this season or last?

To me, it’s this season. Not saying last year was an anomaly, but now that teams know how to play Subban and beat Price and know that you can push Montreal around, they’re not having any trouble doing just that.

Really, the Canadiens don’t look much different than the Red Sox did three months ago or the (football) Jets have looked lately. When the front office is an insecure, backpedaling mess, it infects the rest of the team.

by Ryan Durling on Jan 12, 2012 10:33 PM EST reply actions  

The only thing they gain is some cap flexibility. That is it. Ramos and Holland are spare parts… one is in the KHL and the other is a 7th round pick.

by BobbyOrrsBastard on Jan 12, 2012 10:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Bourque’s term is brutal, five more years. He’s got buy out written all over him down the road.

by TomServo42 on Jan 12, 2012 10:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea, and Cami is proof of just how big the Iginla effect can be.

by BobbyOrrsBastard on Jan 12, 2012 10:40 PM EST up reply actions  

i’m lurking, but wouldn’t be able to hide my delight if i posted

by TomServo42 on Jan 12, 2012 10:46 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

It’s almost more fun to give sympathy though… makes them that more depressed about the trade. If Boston fans are nice over it you just KNOW its a horrid move.

by BobbyOrrsBastard on Jan 12, 2012 10:47 PM EST up reply actions  

damn, you’re playing the long con

by TomServo42 on Jan 12, 2012 10:48 PM EST up reply actions  

What the hell? Just like that huh.

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by Dave Carignan on Jan 12, 2012 10:50 PM EST reply actions  

Other follies include acquiring the over-valued Tomas Kaberle, and trading elite goal scorer/fan favourite Michael Cammalleri in the middle of a game for Calgary’s Rene Bourque, in what seems to be a very lop-sided trade in terms of skill. 8 What happens next for this team in turmoil remains to be seen.

From the Wikipedia entry of Pierre Gauthier. Oh…this is gonna be good…

by Miss Muse on Jan 13, 2012 12:13 AM EST reply actions  

This trade amuses me...

You have the handful of delusional Habs fans who are calling this a great move and praising Bourque’s size and calling Cammi selfish.

Then you have the rest of the fanbase that is practically on suicide watch over it…

by BobbyOrrsBastard on Jan 13, 2012 9:31 AM EST reply actions  

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