Hitting The Links: Loud Noises Edition
by sarahconnors on Feb 13, 2012 10:03 AM EST
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PrintDid anyone watch the Grammys last night? Me neither. Too much hockey on to actually devote time to crappy, crapp music being lauded by Hollywood idiots. There are a lot of teams out west making a lot of noise, specifically in the Central Division. Not that I don't enjoy the Bruins curb-stomping everyone else in theNortheast, but it's so fun to watch this dogfight for the division. Can't wait to see which teams make moves and which don't...the trade deadline is fast approaching.
After the jump, looking at the Bruins' true value, another player returns from a concussion, and a Carl Soderberg update....whaaa?
Bruins News:
Who is the biggest bargain for the Bruins, based on dollars per goal? [Bruins Hockey Now]
Colin Wilson and Brandon Yip had gotten used to scoring in Boston! Not Saturday. [Tennessean]
A better effort finally paid off for the Bruins. [Herald]
Some of the players are seeing a marked change in attitude from the team. [Telegraph]
November and December are over, kids. Better get used to it. [Herald]
Could Carl Soderberg actually come over from Sweden next year? Apparently, his agent says yes... [Puck Drunk Love]
What a shocker, the media blew Tuukka Rask's google-translated quote out of proportion. [Puck Drunk Love]
NHL News:
The Blue Jackets are mathematically eliminated from playoffs as of yesterday. Womp Womp. [Globe And Mail]
Zac Rinaldo might get Shanabanned over his hit on Loui Ericsson. [PHT]
Last night the Red Wings Presented By Amway tied their home winning streak record at 20 games. [USA]
Ryan Callahan had a hat trick as the Rangers beat the Capitals 3-2 at MSG. [WSJ]
Andy McDonald returned last night after missing 51 games and had an assist as the Blues beat the Sharks. [STLToday]
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So Detroit has a real slim chance of losing to Dallas this year at all, much less at home.
However, the 1930 Bruins are, I think, still more impressive. They only lost 1 game at home for the whole season (to the Montreal…Maroons!) That team also lost 2 home playoff games, 1 to the Maroons again and then once to the Habs.
What I’m saying is, Montreal sucks and I hate them.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Feb 13, 2012 10:30 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
What I’m saying is, Montreal sucks and I hate them.
Heeeey, we’re on the same page!
Kick his ass, Seabass!
by phonymahoney on Feb 13, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
Any Habs hating is a rec in my world!
They did it for Savy, they did it for Horton, they did it for each other, they did it for us. I give you the 2011 Stanley Cup Champions....The Boston Bruins!!
My Lions lost to the Saints who are clearly the better team. (This is what happens when you back your team and they lose),
by beachguy113 on Feb 13, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Hey all
Seeing that the B’s had won on Saturday was a big pick-me-up…I had a great time in HFD at Monster Jam, but on the way home had a car spin into my lane with no time for me to react, and I ended up in a 65+MPH crash. I’m sore but OK otherwise, but Sat. night/Sun. morning was a bit difficult, so watching the re-air yesterday helped me out a lot.
In Memoriam: Dan Wheldon 1978-2011
Holy shit, dude. Glad to hear you’re okay.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Feb 13, 2012 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
Glad to hear you are well... :)
Always easier to fix cars than people…..
jeebus! Glad to hear you’re okay!
Kick his ass, Seabass!
by phonymahoney on Feb 13, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
Hope you are feeling 100% ASAP!! Happy to hear no big injuries. Take care
They did it for Savy, they did it for Horton, they did it for each other, they did it for us. I give you the 2011 Stanley Cup Champions....The Boston Bruins!!
My Lions lost to the Saints who are clearly the better team. (This is what happens when you back your team and they lose),
you know man I know your a Nascar fan but dude…… Don’t I told you can’t go and remake Days of Thunder
but any way IM DROPPING THE HAMMER
HOCKEY TEMPER
Simplest explanation is that Kampfer was sent to PVD on Saturday, and Bodnarchuk is going to be the 7th D for the road trip.
More fun explanation: OMG! Corvo and/or Boychuk are gone!
Krejci + Boychuk
for
Whitney + Yandle
And if that sounds like a HFBoards trade, it’s because that’s where I saw it.
It’s totally a HFBoards type trade. In terms of value around the league:
Yandle > Krejci
Whitney > Boychuck
The + the Bruins would have to sacrifice would be pretty significant.
by Michael Taylor on Feb 13, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
This trade deadline is likely going to be a real dud. I don’t think that’s necessarily a bad thing for the Bruins though, I still look at them as the best team in the NHL, if no one improves at the deadline due to the asking prices, they’ll keep their big 4 prospects and their first rounder, and maintain that edge over the other teams.
And if you’re a person who is interested in getting a Parise or Suter Bruins jersey, the absolute best thing is them remaining with their current team, because that eliminates a GM overpaying them based on the haul they had to give up at the deadline this year.
by Michael Taylor on Feb 13, 2012 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
Alright, this might sound like a broken record but
There HAS to be someone out there that is better than Joe Corvo and cheap!
Probably not I’m afraid. Look at the prices defensemen with any kind of offensive upside got during offseason, then multiply that by however you can quantify increased demand and reduced supply. I think we’re going to have to live with him.
Best I’m hoping for is a reasonably solid stay-at-home D for injury depth. 3rd line winger is a bonus
I'm out, peace - Tim Thomas
Look at last year...
we got Rich Peverly and Chris Kelly….two names that many did not recognize or even thought they would be help much. People thought that Kaberle was going to be the big piece, but it really was Pevs and Kelly that came up huge and not Kabs…
true.. but..
We also gave up 2 roster players to get them in Wheeler and Stuart. Chia has said over and over that he does not want to part with anyone on this roster. Probably just a negotiating tactic, but really… you have to give something to get something.
I really doubt it. A player better than Joe Corvo at this year’s deadline will likely cost a significant prospect or player. Seeing as though we don’t have a 2nd, any player we give up that will cost a 3rd or less is probably going to “feel” better than Corvo…but eventually will get kicked around by fans like Corvo does.
Ex. Montador, Steve
by Michael Taylor on Feb 13, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
ex: any offensively-minded defenseman in the last 10 years not named “bourque”
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Feb 13, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, It’s always going to happen in this market. I’ve never come to accept it, and wasted a lot of time debating it. The fact that Orr and Bourque were such brilliant all around players leads Bruin fans to believe that defensemen belong in two categories.
1. All time great
2. Physical shutdown guy.
Part of the reason I rarely slum it at HF anymore is having to read things like “Kampfer has been absolutely brutal this season”. I realize that +/- is a very limited way of looking at things, but I think it’s fair to say that a defensemen who hasn’t been a minus player in a single game this season is probably somewhat better than disastrous.
by Michael Taylor on Feb 13, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
rec
I never go to HFBoards for a reason
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Feb 13, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
My gripe with Corvo is
He doesn’t score and he doesn’t hit. We got him for being an offensive defenseman, but he has 3 goals which is just one more than McQuaid, but the same as Boychuk and Seidenberg, he even has less goals that Ference.
He does not hit, even fragile Ference has twice as many hits as Corvo and he does not block shots. All he does is shoot the puck, but again, comes back to the 3 goals, nothing really amazing there…
“hits” are a really really bad stat, and they change depending on whether you’re home or away and which away barn you’re in. People have tried to make them useful but they’re just not.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Feb 13, 2012 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
I think the best litmus test of this with Bruins fans is to ask them what they thought of Mark Stuart and Dennis Wideman. One player is basically revered to this day, the other constantly derided, and it’s inversely correlated with their on-ice value.
by Michael Taylor on Feb 13, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
I liked both Mark "Caveman" Stuart
and Dennis Wideman, the one that I disliked (well, aside from Kaberle and now Corvo) was Montador….Then again, he did not get a true chance with the Bruins….
Stuart punch a man!
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Feb 13, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
I liked Stuart, and I thought Wideman’s game was fine, but never warmed up to him because I was (am) still not thrilled with trading Brad Boyes away.
Kick his ass, Seabass!
by phonymahoney on Feb 13, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
That is who we got him for...
I was drawing a blank as to who we traded to get Wideman…Brad Boyes…THANKS!!! :)
Corvo’s CorsiRelQOC is 4th on the team at -0.216
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Feb 13, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
which isn’t great but where you’d expect a 2nd-pairing defenseman to be
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Feb 13, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
he also has the most o-zone starts of any regular defenseman at 56.4%
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Feb 13, 2012 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
which is where I have some issue with the idea that he’s good at getting out of our own end. If that were true, he’d have more d zone starts.
I'm out, peace - Tim Thomas
But his job isn’t shut-down defense
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Feb 13, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
But if part of the desirable skill set is his pass out of the D zone, wouldn’t you want to start him there more? Given his propensity for turnovers, the answer for Claude is obviously no, but humor me.
I'm out, peace - Tim Thomas
Yes, I hear you. I mean, he’s still starting in not-the-o-zone 43.6% of the time
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Feb 13, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
I think the skill set that I’m more interested in from Corvo is “retrieve and transition”. I don’t think starting him in the D zone is eliminating that skill set.
by Michael Taylor on Feb 13, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
The only Defenseman with more points is perennial all-star and Norris trophy winner Zdeno Chara. Andy Ference has the same amount but he’s also having a career year right now.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Feb 13, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, It’s always going to happen in this market. I’ve never come to accept it, and wasted a lot of time debating it. The fact that Orr and Bourque were such brilliant all around players leads Bruin fans to believe that defensemen belong in two categories.
1. All time great
2. Physical shutdown guy.
So, SO true.
Kick his ass, Seabass!
by phonymahoney on Feb 13, 2012 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
I do believe he was unable to hit an empty net that got a lot of people mad
but then I don’t personally remember that since I am a post-lockout fan
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Feb 13, 2012 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
Actually, his best offensive seasons came with the Bruins
88-89 19 Goals 35 Assists
90-91 11 Goals 32 Assists
93-94 14 Goals 44 Assists
Wesley was a good solid Bruin
Had the luxury of having a certain #77 around but yes a guy like Wesley held his own while in Boston.
They did it for Savy, they did it for Horton, they did it for each other, they did it for us. I give you the 2011 Stanley Cup Champions....The Boston Bruins!!
My Lions lost to the Saints who are clearly the better team. (This is what happens when you back your team and they lose),
I dont care about their contract hit if that the cheap you are looking for as there is tonnes of room to add salary as long as its expiring at seasons end.
I agree with Michael in that this trade deadline unless some teams really hit the skids for the next 2 weeks there are too many teams in the chase to be sellers.
They did it for Savy, they did it for Horton, they did it for each other, they did it for us. I give you the 2011 Stanley Cup Champions....The Boston Bruins!!
My Lions lost to the Saints who are clearly the better team. (This is what happens when you back your team and they lose),
"*I still look at them as the best team in the NHL"
- if healthy. This team is really missing Horton and if he is out long term it will hurt their chances in the playoffs. Me hopes that Chia adds the depth this team will need to replace a Horton type player, otherwise they are doomed.
doomed is pushing it. This team scores by committee and has some slumping forwards at the moment. I for one don’t view Horton as the lynch pin of the offense.
I'm out, peace - Tim Thomas
ok..
So doomed might be a little harsh.. but look at the big goals he scored last year, and also look at the shell Krejci has become since he went down. This teams chemistry has been disrupted without him.
true: our ability to score in overtime in the playoffs may be hampered without him
I think krejci’s performances is independent of Horton’s injury. Coincidental slump. Its not as if he’s found his groove since being shuffled. Horton’s injury to me mainly affects the 3rd line’s ability to produce due to moving Pevs IMO
I'm out, peace - Tim Thomas
Just to add another point
Krejci had 13 goals last year during the whole season, and then turned it on in the playoffs (especially against Philly and Tampa) and he finished with 12 goals…Krejci just seems to take it to another level come the playoffs…
I would agree...
Horton has not been the player he was last year. Arguable having two concussions in a short span of time will affect his production. But, even last year, he was not the lynch pin to the offense. I am taking nothing away from his 2 game 7 winners! Those were AWESOME!!!
HFBoards trade
sigh…
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Feb 13, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
NHL12TRADES
traded Krecji Hamil and a 2nd for Yandell and Biz……. lol
then made a trade Boychuk Corvo 3rd for Jack Johnson lol
my GM skills are laughable
HOCKEY TEMPER
It’s funny. I realize that this is a joke post based on a video game.
But Bruins fans would eventually riot in the streets if their defense featured Jack Johnson and Keith Yandle.
by Michael Taylor on Feb 13, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
I for one thought it was a great deal that has worked out well
I have Dougie paired with Chara
Yandle with Sieds
and McQuaid with JJ
and have KOKO playing 3rd line C with jason blake and biz lol I love this game
HOCKEY TEMPER
NHL 2K10 for Wii… traded Sturm and pieces for Hedman. Signed Neal, Perron and Chris Stewart for ~3M apiece longterm.
Our intention isn't to discuss this... it's to see if you can bleed.
by BobbyOrrsBastard on Feb 13, 2012 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
Does anyone know or know where to find what draft picks the B’s hold going into this year’s draft? Knowing Chia’s habit of trading picks he’s already replaced, that might give some indication of the prices he’d consider
I'm out, peace - Tim Thomas
chicago has a great tracker on their website, I don’t think Boston does though
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Feb 13, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
I’m sure we have no 2nd (won Stanley Cup) and no 4th (Corvo). I don’t believe we received any picks in return last season.
by Michael Taylor on Feb 13, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
you are correct. No idea how good this site is in general, but for future reference this seems to have what I was looking for: http://www.prosportstransactions.com/hockey/DraftTrades/Future/Bruins.htm
I'm out, peace - Tim Thomas
so if we already gave up the 2012 2nd rounder that means the avalanche have our 2013 2nd rounder?
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Feb 13, 2012 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
No, that was tracking where our 2nd for this upcoming draft went. Leafs traded it for Liles
I'm out, peace - Tim Thomas
so the Bruins 2nd-rounder could be colorado’s or washington’s?
that’s what I’m getting
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Feb 13, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, exactly. Washington’s choice which they want. They’ll take Colorado’s own 2012 2nd most likely so our pick would stay with the Avs
I'm out, peace - Tim Thomas
got it
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Feb 13, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
And that’s part of the reason I think they’re unlikely to make a significant trade. Their assets fall into 3 categories (if you believe PC at face value that he isn’t trading roster players)
1. Untouchable stud prospect – Dougie Hamilton
2. Forward prospects/draft picks who you’d deal for an impact player, but won’t return an impact player. – Knight, Spooner, Koko, 2012 1st.
3. Sell Low asset – Jordan Caron
I mean if you think that Caron, Kampfer, 2012 1st brings you back something good, than maybe, but to be honest, I have a hard time believing that player is going to be unquestionably better than anyone in their top 9 or top 4.
by Michael Taylor on Feb 13, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
Josh Hennessy called up too!?
what does it mean? WHAT DOES IT MEAN!?
aside from management giving up on Hamill and needing another forward for the road trip
I stand with Tuukka Rask in his fight for the starting job
That's what I figured
i think he’ll look good in black and gold pretty soon though.
Just a thought before anyone has too big of a FA cow…
Trade deadline spin?
I’ve kinda kept an eye on Soderberg since the Toivonen trade…seemed like he was content to stay in Sweden, but he might have made the right choice given the B’s depth at center. The timing of the article is curious, though. Perhaps it’s pre-trade-deadline buzz to get attention?
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